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17-08-2017, 13:21
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#76
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
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Originally Posted by Captain Bill
If you bothered to read my post you would have noted that it was not me who was ticketed. The lights you posted about are for boats with electrical systems. Find me a portable battery powered light (D-cell or smaller) that will work on small inflatables without electrical systems, which what most people on this forum are using. I didn't find any. I also looked at the socket of the aquasignal. There is no way to mount such a socket on my transom and not on my previous dinghy either, even if I put in an electrical system I could not use it. I would bet most dinghy's have no way to mount them either.
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Captain Bill, others may lecture me, but I just throw a roll of duct tape into the dink and use it to secure a mag light. Unscrew the hood and presto, a nav light.
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17-08-2017, 14:18
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#77
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Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
Boat: Sayer 46' Solent rig sloop
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
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Originally Posted by zeehag
safety equipment in surf landing situations in real time cruising:
as you will be repeatedly wearing this little boat as a hat, you will want to omit all bits of alleged safety in dinghies . leave such items on your mother ship. they become projectiles to compound your gonnabe headache from hell. you will lose many items and require replacement until you learn timing of swells and seas without looking at them, as you need also to watch the beach where you will hopefully land. hahahaha
height of these swells without constantly watching em
pad all hard spots of dink with the pfds and swim noodles you can find
if you leave the outboard on the dinghy, make sure you get enough speed to land without flipping and get enough take off speed to avoid being swamped on departure thru the surf. this can happen in 6 inch surf. watch pangas land in san felipe and zihuatenejo ...
your laptop will thank you as will your smartass fone.
watch you tube and read a lot. none of this matters unless you are practicing the fine art of avoidance if headaches. is actually a fine waste of time. great entertainment , however.
remember you are always entertainment for the rest of the fleet and yes they WILL see your horror. hahahahaha. every time.
make sure your panties are clean before beginning this task, and the videos are complete. no missing 18 mins.....
i am soo glad i was able in my life to learn how to move with a boat and row a leaky dinghy.
videos and reading do not make agility and do not magically create your safety and ability.
get real time practice, as that is the only way you know what it is.
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Ah, Zee, thanks so much for the above post.
It brought back a memory. It was New Years Day, in Bahia de Navidad. Jim and I were rowing in to the beach at Philomena's to join the yachties there for breakfast, shrimp omeletes. I had on my dress. (Usually wore tops and shorts, but I was wearing a bright colored Mexican dress.)
So, rowing, rowing. ....Arrive near to beach, and spin the dinghy around to watch the wave sets. Jim would call it, and we pull together, sitting side by side in this old hypalon Zodiac, 13 ft. "Pull!"
We started to pull, and I pulled the rowlock right off! Yes! dinghy overturned because it was lying beam to, contents in the water, including anchor and rode, but the bitter end was attached, the seat, our stuff, and I have never been so sandy! Your mention of the 18 min was almost right, it took me 20 min in Phil's shower to get all cleaned up.
It was okay to have brekkie soaking wet, lots of folks laughed, and the shrimps were in the shell!
Ann
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17-08-2017, 14:51
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#78
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
i HATE it when i wear a dress and get drowned.
gggrrr flustrating.
luckily my drowning was at the hands of my friends in their hard wooden dinghy coming off the beach after the party to go home. was bad enough.
got wet on my way to la manzanilla, in tenacatita bay.. embarrassing enough. must pretend it was deliberate and roll with it.
when i got wet in my walker bay 8, i took out my brand new under 1 month old computer i bought to replace one that had gotten wet. oopsy....and was on my way out to my boat--the wake from a power boat swamped my bow a little..just enough.
usually i can control my own dink, but when someone else drives or i get waked by power boats, the game changes, water gets in
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17-08-2017, 15:20
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#79
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
In a strange consequence,there is an you tube blogger guy who videoed his girl friend getting hit by a small rib .there are three things that lead to the accident . If you search Sophisticated Lady you will find it .dont know how to post links .
This happened in Bequia last month.
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17-08-2017, 17:59
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#80
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Santa Cruz
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
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Originally Posted by oslokid
. It turns out this was my first time towing anything with a dinghy. It was a real challenge getting the tow going and not fouling the prop while holding the painter and steering at same time. Then I had to constantly adjust speed and direction while underway.
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I do hope you loaded the people into your dinghy first. It is a whole lot easier to tow an empty dinghy.
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17-08-2017, 20:21
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#81
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
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Originally Posted by Muckle Flugga
Fair note, but frankly they can be manufactured with any thin line and a hitch, at a pinch, and in seconds.
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Or just yank off the switch connection inside the cover.
All the kills switch does is short out the ignition, so disconnecting it enables the engine to run.
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17-08-2017, 22:28
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#82
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Location: Minnesota
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
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Originally Posted by admiralslater
In a strange consequence,there is an you tube blogger guy who videoed his girl friend getting hit by a small rib .there are three things that lead to the accident . If you search Sophisticated Lady you will find it .dont know how to post links .
This happened in Bequia last month.
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https://youtu.be/t6wfS-SbE5g
I'd have said that they should have had a flag out, except the driver knew there was someone in the water, so it probably wouldn't have made much difference.
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18-08-2017, 04:08
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
We do a lot of traveling in shallow water. I always make sure the motor is unlocked, free to tilt. Groundings are far less exciting this way.
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18-08-2017, 05:25
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#84
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Join Date: Feb 2013
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
My mother lost part of a finger when she fended off while in a dory that was pulling up to a friend' s sailboat...crushed it beyond saving. While obviously less of a risk with a RIB it does not take much to mangle a digit and it's commonplace activities like pulling alongside where ones guard is often down.
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30-08-2017, 09:36
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#85
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Join Date: Dec 2016
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
Two acquaintances of mine lost their lives two springs ago when the bow line on a small Jon boat became tangled in the outboard. It pulled hard to one side and pitched them both out. The boat continued to run in circles, but too fast for either to catch it. Cold water, no PFDs, no kill switch. There was a bridge nearby, and witnesses watched them go under, unable to do anything but watch. Both of them were experienced boaters, in the middle of the day, stone cold sober. Ironically, they had just purchased the boat from a local volunteer fire department that had used it for search and rescue on small waters. It was just a test run....
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29-10-2017, 01:12
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#86
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
Anyone have any experience with this kind of rigid inflatable dinghy? It looks pretty amazing, and the price is reasonable.... Sturdy, easy to board, easy to row or motor, stable platform for diving or fishing, wheel in the keel, plus the optional drop-in sailing kit so you can have a sailboat on your sailboat.... Any thoughts?
https://walkerbay.com/dinghies-sail-...le-dinghy/310r
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29-10-2017, 13:59
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#87
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
SYSojourner,
We have some friends that carry both a sailing dinghy (on the foredeck of their flush deck double head rig sloop) and an inflatable (upright, in chocks, aft of the mast). In our observation, it is the inflatable that gets used more often, to the extent that they left the sailing dinghy in storage for one trip.
Ann
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29-10-2017, 23:43
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
Thanks Ann! I'm not so much interested in the sailing part of the dinghy (tho it would I'm sure be fun sometimes), more the hybrid style of the dinghy in the link, using an outboard. Seems to have the best of both worlds--speed of a rigid, stability and ease of a full inflatable--for a very decent price.
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30-10-2017, 06:38
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Florida
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
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Originally Posted by SYSojourner
Anyone have any experience with this kind of rigid inflatable dinghy? It looks pretty amazing, and the price is reasonable.... Sturdy, easy to board, easy to row or motor, stable platform for diving or fishing, wheel in the keel, plus the optional drop-in sailing kit so you can have a sailboat on your sailboat.... Any thoughts?
https://walkerbay.com/dinghies-sail-...le-dinghy/310r
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I'd recommend a Portland Pudgy over a Walker Bay. The Walker Bay has the reputation of not rowing, motoring or sailing particularly well and once you add the float collar & sailing rig it's priced like better quality boats.
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30-10-2017, 06:54
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#90
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
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Re: Death by Dinghy : Risks and Best Practices
i am most happy with my walker bay 10. it rows. it carries stuff.. it holds 3 of the 20 liter garafones of water plus laundry and still rows...
the blessed part of a walker bay is it is not a toyota, ie, not high on the steal me listings, which can be excellent selling feature in many cruising venues.
it also does not have the pretty wood to become destroyed at a dinghy dock.
the walker bay 8 was a bunch harder to row-- across the outflow post hurricane cosme i thought i was going to die of heart attack with the hour it took me to row across a channel filled with outflow.
mine has no ringy dingy .,.it does have a sweet inner floor set up that keeps things from being soaked on your way thru swells. it also has flotation. oopsy can be important. it is not a professional rowing shell n ot other fancy attractions, but a no nonsense taxi for anchored and moored cruisers.
mine has no sail kit.
HOWEVER, when you are actually out cruising that can make a huge difference.
especially in a remote anchorage where no one will help you get to worst marine, some 1000 miles away to replace it.
seems the dock queens and commuter cruisers love the easily stolen and high dollar rigid inflatables. i used those before i actually left port. now i use with pride my walker bay 10.
\so many have lost or had dinghies stolen. why join the masses.
\oh yeah.. must look awesome for the other dock queens and the raft ups.
i notice no one has mentioned riprap..the dinghy fail cause of all time.
my walker bay does not deflate on riprap.
BIIIG selling point, in my book.,
and did i say the wb10 rows decent??? it also handles surf landings well....
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