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Old 23-09-2014, 11:43   #1
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A statement made in another thread by Dock head, that "the Caribbean requires care" made me wanting to find out some specifics about the Caribbean.

Obviously the Caribbean covers many countries and a great distance, but for all the experienced Caribbean cruisers what are the safety concerns when travelling/cruising down there. Are there certain areas or islands to stay away from? Is it better to stay near the bigger ports? Is it just the same as visiting NYC and you stay out of the alleys and projects?

Essentially I have been on a charter to the BVI and USVI but that was 14 years ago and we stayed to the heavily touristy areas so did not have major concerns. Eventually when we get another boat I want to go back for an extended stay to see more of the Caribbean but would like to know the goods and bads before we do.

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Noonsite and the Carib Saftey Index (CSI) are a good place to start for an overview of security in the Carib.

http://www.noonsite.com/General/Pira...review-of-2013
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Thanks for the reply Belize! I have already been checking out the site but most of the security stuff is pretty generic for the whole region. I didnt know if anyone had specifics such as stay away from certain islands, ports, areas etc. Or is it just your typical dont attract attention, be vigilant, lock up your dinghy at night and dont be an easy target kind of stuff.
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Okay, a simple version: stay away from St Lucia, St Vincent and Venezuela.
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That's where the ARC goes? Why do they end the crossing there if it's so unsafe?
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Thanks for the reply Belize! I have already been checking out the site but most of the security stuff is pretty generic for the whole region. I didnt know if anyone had specifics such as stay away from certain islands, ports, areas etc. Or is it just your typical dont attract attention, be vigilant, lock up your dinghy at night and dont be an easy target kind of stuff.
The CSI does drill down by region (see their map) and country. Noonsite also contains information of broader scope (not just security) on each country.

For example, the Rio Dulce (my home base and a wonderful place) does not score so well on the CSI because there are periodic security problems there. But if you stick to the marinas (inexpensive with security) you will be fine (and to a lesser extent the more popular anchorages). In contrast, and perhaps unexpectedly, Colombia scores quite well because those areas frequented by cruisers rarely have any issues and the Colombian coast guard is vigilant (in a good way).

In general avoid areas that score poorly like those mentioned by Nic (Jedi) + the Nicaraguan and Honduran coasts (their islands score better and are beautiful). I lift (davits) and lock my dink every night no matter where we are anchored (even in the San Blas, which are super safe). There are a number of extensive threads here on security tactics...usually devolving into a heated debate about guns, but they contain some good info before degrading into pointless rants.
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That's where the ARC goes? Why do they end the crossing there if it's so unsafe?
Pthey get a good deal from Rodney Bay.
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Re "don't attract attention". Even a modest cruising boat, and the financial freedom to cruise, represent unimaginable wealth to locals in most popular cruising venues in the Carib. Hard not to stand out, especially in less frequently visited areas.

If I want to visit an area of questionable security then I don't sail there. Traveling like a typical tourist (esp a backpacker) attracts a lot less attention.
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Good to know after my 3 week + crossing in a few weeks I'm going to get robbed.
Reminds me why I try not to read threads like this.


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Good to know after my 3 week + crossing in a few weeks I'm going to get robbed.
Reminds me why I try not to read threads like this.
Rodney Bay is fine.
But remember last year a cruiser was murdured in View Fort at the south of St Lucia when they were attacked at night on their boat at anchor.

We are not making stuff up to scare you.

Most of the Caribbean is fine, but look at that list from Jedi.
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Rodney Bay is fine until your wife gets raped and killed while you are forced to watch after being beat silly (happened many years ago but later incidents have occured). The marina is okay I guess. We have stayed many times in Rodney Bay and had a lot of fun there; I only had to repel a boarder once.
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I've always thought 1000's of people sail in this part of the world. So if Rodney Bay and surrounding areas is dangerous where would you suggest we go after coming over? Head North? BVI's, etc?
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Threads like this always reminds me of , Not many people go camping in East St Louis,,,,be smart, take advice from others, dont be an easy mark, (no offense to anyone named Mark) be humble and have fun.

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I've always thought 1000's of people sail in this part of the world. So if Rodney Bay and surrounding areas is dangerous where would you suggest we go after coming over? Head North? BVI's, etc?
North is safe.

So the next island up is Martinique and its a slice of France and has some great history. I am not into Dominica but others are.
Antigua is wonderful but best in Classic Week and Sailing week when its a big party, March April.
Barbuda is safe and a nature getaway.
Monserrat for its volcano.
Guadeloupe is safe (and its islands)
St Kits and Nevis fine,
St Barts where the billionaires go and is really quite extraordinary as a rich persons playground that you can play in too. Best time is New Years eve.
St Martin for chandleries and great laid back cruisers drinking places, best time is anytime.
BVIs lots of tourists as you have heard but that still doesnt detract. Christmas would be fine, New Years Eve at Foxys for a working mans place.

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Lucia is Grenada with is safe but St Vincent, Grenadines is less so.

I'd be cruising north
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