USA, alerts...it is proposing Sovereignty

[FlyingCloud1937]

Originally Posted by Andrew B.

Could you be clearer about the reference you used ? Thanks.

NPR

Lloyd

[Capt Phil]

I think from a contiguous land point of view, Canada would have a first claim to the land mass and would have to negotiate where the border is with Russia. Much as the US would like to think that they have a claim to everything, there are some folks north of the 49th Parallel who migh see things differently. Phil

[goat]

Originally Posted by FlyingCloud1937

USA, alerts...it is proposing Sovereignty over portions of the Arctic.

Is this the first sign of global...Warming?

Or is it business as usual?


It seems that with the ICE Breakers and everything they/we do up there...it should be theirs to grab.

???

Lloyd

I believe the first sign of global warming was when the ice sheets started to recede after the last ice age. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[FlyingCloud1937]

Originally Posted by goat

I believe the first sign of global warming was when the ice sheets started to recede after the last ice age. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The first US person to note Global Warming was President Thomas Jefferson.

He logged daily Temps, Rainfall, Snowfall ....365 days a year for 15 years at his farm.

Very interesting reading, his notes and thoughts about his statistics.

Lloyd

[bgallinger]

Originally Posted by Capt Phil

I think from a contiguous land point of view, Canada would have a first claim to the land mass and would have to negotiate where the border is with Russia. Much as the US would like to think that they have a claim to everything, there are some folks north of the 49th Parallel who migh see things differently. Phil

Canada has already done that several times, but you know how these things go.....

[krafthaus]

Originally Posted by Capt Phil

I think from a contiguous land point of view, Canada would have a first claim to the land mass and would have to negotiate where the border is with Russia. Much as the US would like to think that they have a claim to everything, there are some folks north of the 49th Parallel who migh see things differently. Phil

Originally Posted by goat

I believe the first sign of global warming was when the ice sheets started to recede after the last ice age. Correct me if I'm wrong.

.....on both of these!

[manitu]

There is no land
The arctic is mostly international waters.What we are talking about here is extending national waters and agreeing on economic zones.
Norway and Russia has just come to an agreement on their border, and I believe Norway and Denmark (Greenland) has one too.

,manitu

[Nicholson58]

Originally Posted by FlyingCloud1937

NPR

Lloyd

Well, if it was on NPR it must be unquestionably true. I've never heard false, cooked one-sided reporting or bad data on lefty socialist NPR.

Did you know that where I stand (Michigan) there was about 6 miles of ice 12,000 years ago? If it weren't for those cave men burning all that timber I just don't know where I'd live. The sky is not falling, just changing as usual.

All of the big powers are flexing muscle and as usual, follow the money. The Chinese want 'worthless' uninhabited Japanese islands on nationlistic & historical basis. Turns out oil is likely there. Arctic has oil, fish, minerals - and now accessable. Go figgure.

[perchance]

Since the Russians have already planted their flag on the north pole does that make Santa Claus a stateless person?

[senormechanico]

Originally Posted by FlyingCloud1937

The first US person to note Global Warming was President Thomas Jefferson.

He logged daily Temps, Rainfall, Snowfall ....365 days a year for 15 years at his farm.

Very interesting reading, his notes and thoughts about his statistics.

Lloyd

Yeah, he probably felt guilty about all the "Carbon Dioxide Pollution generated by his SUV.

[SvenG]

Climate change deniers are so cute, like two-year-olds who have just learned to say "NO".

Too bad the change will mess up cruising weather patterns long before the beaches are moved



-Sven

[sailorboy1]

BTW - we own the moon! Our flag flies there so it is ours.

[delmarrey]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

BTW - we own the moon! Our flag flies there so it is ours.

Yeah! And I wonder how much it cost. I'm sure the EPA will get involved once we try to develop it.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by sailorboy1

BTW - we own the moon! Our flag flies there so it is ours.

I stuck a little toy flag on my neighbours lawn , do I own it.,he's never flown a flag on it. , Kwel

Dave

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by SvenG

Climate change deniers are so cute, like two-year-olds who have just learned to say "NO".

Too bad the change will mess up cruising weather patterns long before the beaches are moved



-Sven

So.. we sail anyway..