Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 24-01-2013, 18:41   #166
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,440
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
"They fail to mention where the GPS signals that they are using come from."
Jim, you seem to suffer from the urban myth that GPS devices transmit signals. They NEVER do, the only GPS signals or transmissions come from the satellites.
G'Day HS,

Actually that is what I was getting at, mate! I actually do know how the GPS system works. I guess that I didn't express myself well enough... or perhaps you didn't read carefully enough!

Cheers,

Jim
__________________

__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 24-01-2013, 20:09   #167
Registered User
 
sailpower's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 784
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lodesman View Post
British and descendant navies' terminology vice USN's.
Ah, Britain and the USA, two (or more) countries separated by a common language.
__________________

__________________
sailpower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 09:07   #168
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Toronto
Boat: Sandpiper 565
Posts: 2,941
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Update: They're preparing the ship to be lifted off of the reef. Heavy-lift salvage equipment should be on the scene by Feb 1 or so.

USS Guardian update: ship stripped of materials that would damage Tubbataha Reef in Philippines

"About 1,000 square meters (about 10,760 square feet) of the reef have been damaged."


__________________
Lake-Effect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 15:21   #169
Registered User
 
Hydra's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lorient, Brittany, France
Boat: Gib'Sea 302, 30' - Hydra
Posts: 1,229
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Some pictures now show that the ship is losing part of her planking. This will be difficult to repair, if financially viable.

Of course, it doesn't compare with the damage to the reef and to the reputation of the USN.

Alain
__________________
Hydra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 15:47   #170
cruiser

Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,130
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

I doubt anyone cares about the navy's "reputation".

United States armed forces, by definition, don't care about anything but the mission.

That's why the Hell's Angels have been ignored while they use the insignia and nickname of a bomber group for all these years.

The service doesn't care what you think about them. They only care about the mission.
__________________
Jammer Six is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 16:14   #171
Registered User
 
Hydra's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Lorient, Brittany, France
Boat: Gib'Sea 302, 30' - Hydra
Posts: 1,229
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Jammer Six,
I am not an American citizen. I am a civilian. So, my opinion about the US armed forces isn't important. I have no real idea what the US armed forces really think or care about. But I think that some people on this forum will disagree with you.

Alain
__________________
Hydra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 16:23   #172
Moderator
 
HappyMdRSailor's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: North Mississippi
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon-C22 Chrysler Sunpiper- 19 Potter-Preparing to cruise w/my girl
Posts: 5,980
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Ah, Britain and the USA, two (or more) countries separated by a common language.

More importantly..... Palatable food....
__________________
In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair...

Mai Tai's fix everything...
HappyMdRSailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 16:27   #173
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Mackay,QLD, Australia
Boat: planning a approx 45ft cat
Posts: 3,651
Images: 3
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammer Six View Post
I doubt anyone cares about the navy's "reputation".

United States armed forces, by definition, don't care about anything but the mission.

That's why the Hell's Angels have been ignored while they use the insignia and nickname of a bomber group for all these years.

The service doesn't care what you think about them. They only care about the mission.
Yeah. Mission failed, a cockup, stuffup. Bigtime failed. Now they have to salvage mission and repair reputation. Not easy and embarising for all.
__________________
downunder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 20:30   #174
cruiser

Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,130
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydra View Post
But I think that some people on this forum will disagree with you.
What will I ever do then?
__________________
Jammer Six is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 20:55   #175
Registered User
 
sailpower's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 784
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydra View Post
Some pictures now show that the ship is losing part of her planking. This will be difficult to repair, if financially viable.

Of course, it doesn't compare with the damage to the reef and to the reputation of the USN.

Alain
Bad deal for sure but I think the US Navy has distinguished itself ouite well around the world in response to disasters.
__________________
sailpower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 21:12   #176
Senior Cruiser
 
delmarrey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Now in Blaine, WA
Boat: Modified Choate 40
Posts: 10,702
Images: 122
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Trapped U.S. Navy Minesweeper To Be Broken Up >>>> Trapped U.S. Navy Minesweeper To Be Broken Up

Quote:
“Our only supportable option is to dismantle the damaged ship and remove it in sections,” Rear Adm. Tom Carney, commander of the salvage effort, said in a prepared statement released in conjunction with a Tuesday morning, Jan. 29 press conference at the Philippine Coast Guard facility in Puerto Princesa on the island of Palawan.

The decision, Carney said in the statement, keeps salvage equipment in deeper water and minimizes further damage to the coral reef.

The salvage plan, he said, aims to “safely remove individual sections of the ship without causing the release of harmful materials.”

Earlier, Carney announced the ship was too badly damaged for salvors to tow her off the reef.
__________________
Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves!

Unprepared boaters, end up as floatsum!.......
delmarrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-01-2013, 21:21   #177
Senior Cruiser
 
delmarrey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Now in Blaine, WA
Boat: Modified Choate 40
Posts: 10,702
Images: 122
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammer Six View Post
I doubt anyone cares about the navy's "reputation".

United States armed forces, by definition, don't care about anything but the mission.

That's why the Hell's Angels have been ignored while they use the insignia and nickname of a bomber group for all these years.

The service doesn't care what you think about them. They only care about the mission.
That's OK! Some day the Chinese are going to rule the oceans and you'll have to answer to them. >>> http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf
__________________
Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves!

Unprepared boaters, end up as floatsum!.......
delmarrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-01-2013, 12:58   #178
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: Toronto
Boat: Sandpiper 565
Posts: 2,941
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

So that's how they built her...



(source - Stricken USS Guardian To Be Broken Up | gCaptain - Maritime & Offshore News)
__________________
Lake-Effect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-01-2013, 16:46   #179
cruiser

Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,130
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Whoa. So now the captain didn't merely ground her, he lost her.
__________________
Jammer Six is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-01-2013, 16:54   #180
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,949
Re: U.S. Navy ship goes aground due to bad charts

Interesting how well the wooden hull has held up.
__________________

__________________
Kettlewell Cruising
Kettlewell is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
charts, navy

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:33.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.