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Old 05-02-2010, 04:51   #16
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Another little misunderstanding. The iPad will be able to connect on line but it will have no phone capabilities. WG
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Old 05-02-2010, 22:59   #17
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Ipad + waterproof case (like otterbox) = the ideal boating PC?
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Old 06-02-2010, 12:05   #18
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iPad for Nav - compared to......

My 2 cents worth on this: GPS hardware is only included with the iPad wwan version - i.e. 3g model - but no need to pay ATT anything - just the extra $130 up front to apple. My experience with a similar setup on my Lenovo t400 with 'high brightness' screen and wwan/gps board is excellent - even compared to usb external 'best of breed' gps. The ipad is unlikely to have the 690 nit screen as on this lenovo so frankly imho the t400 is a better choice - if you already have a reliable win7 nav program e.g. rosepoint coastal explorer and want to use above deck. If not, and you are primarily navigating down below I think the $629 ipad with navionics nav is a reasonable choice. Regarding 3g/wifi on board in my experience the Verizon mifi card is a better choice as supports 5 devices with better coastal coverage than ATT. Just me and my mate = 2 laptops and 2 smartphones so there is 4 and ipad makes 5 [ipad for Louis our labrador - he loves animal planet on slingmedia and cannot use a qwery kb]
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Re: The New iPad

Do you get charged an additional fee besides the $10 a month when useing the gps function on your phone when in Canada?
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My 2 cents worth on this: GPS hardware is only included with the iPad wwan version - i.e. 3g model - but no need to pay ATT anything - just the extra $130 up front to apple. My experience with a similar setup on my Lenovo t400 with 'high brightness' screen and wwan/gps board is excellent - even compared to usb external 'best of breed' gps. The ipad is unlikely to have the 690 nit screen as on this lenovo so frankly imho the t400 is a better choice - if you already have a reliable win7 nav program e.g. rosepoint coastal explorer and want to use above deck. If not, and you are primarily navigating down below I think the $629 ipad with navionics nav is a reasonable choice. Regarding 3g/wifi on board in my experience the Verizon mifi card is a better choice as supports 5 devices with better coastal coverage than ATT. Just me and my mate = 2 laptops and 2 smartphones so there is 4 and ipad makes 5 [ipad for Louis our labrador - he loves animal planet on slingmedia and cannot use a qwery kb]
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PS Two years ago verizon dumped me cuz I logged 700 GB's one month in Marathon FL - too much 3g tv. They said I took up half of that cell tower data traffic - ha. I think they are over that after losing a class action suit. Hopefully now they warn first.
Same thing happened to me....banned from Verizon. They lost a customer with me, will never use them for cell phone or Internet service again. I have AT&T cell service now and Sprint for Internet .
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Re: The New iPad

After some research, lets see if I got this right: the GPS receiver on the iPad is actually attached to the GMS cell phone chip, so the Verizon version (CMDA) of the iPad will need some kind of external GPS receiver to act like a chart plotter, because it has no internal GPS receiver. But, if you have the AT&T iPad, you don't need to actually be within the cell phone coverage area for the GPS to work.

confused yet?
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Re: The New iPad

iPad 2,

The one you want for Offshore Navigation is the iPad with Wi-Fi + 3G.
It has assisted GPS. $629 to $829

No monthly fee required.

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Re: The New iPad

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After some research, lets see if I got this right: the GPS receiver on the iPad is actually attached to the GMS cell phone chip, so the Verizon version (CMDA) of the iPad will need some kind of external GPS receiver to act like a chart plotter, because it has no internal GPS receiver. But, if you have the AT&T iPad, you don't need to actually be within the cell phone coverage area for the GPS to work.

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Is that true?? I was going to go with Verizon as a redundancy (I have AT&T iPhone)
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Re: The New iPad

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Not true.

Both AT&T and Verizon model iPad with Wi-Fi + 3G has assisted gps.
For offshore use without a monthly contract.

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After some research, lets see if I got this right: the GPS receiver on the iPad is actually attached to the GMS cell phone chip, so the Verizon version (CMDA) of the iPad will need some kind of external GPS receiver to act like a chart plotter, because it has no internal GPS receiver. But, if you have the AT&T iPad, you don't need to actually be within the cell phone coverage area for the GPS to work.

confused yet?
well, that wasn't quite right. The iPads from either carrier will work with GPS as if you have a 3G version. My confusion was from back when Verizon didn't sell the iPad and you could still use one on the Verizon network through a WiFi connection.

Can you imagine if the government had let private companies manage the GPS signals like they did the cell phones? Your Raymarine GPS would only work in the USA, unless you had a Canadian version, which would offer world wide coverage, but only in French. Meanwhile, the Furuno GPS would only work at night in the northern hemisphere unless you purchased their "world chip" service for extra $$$.... there would be a free GPS service, but it would only work on the Great Lakes. Oh, and all the National Parks would still be on LORAN....
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