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View Poll Results: Keeping celestial nav skills alive
Never learned, too many sight reduction books to haul around 18 8.22%
Plan to learn, on the "to do list" 80 36.53%
Learned, but no longer practice 56 25.57%
Learned, but only practice to keep the skills 50 22.83%
The hubby/wife does it 1 0.46%
Learned, practice every chance for that perfect pin wheel 14 6.39%
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Old 15-02-2012, 17:53   #91
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I don't disagree with that at all but you did say toy.
I did not. Lots of people tell me what I say but it is for everybody to read back what I actually write. Often, it is what you wanted to read but not what I wrote nor what I meant.

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Why thank you!

Personally I'd like to take the time to learn, and may one day, but I doubt it. To much other crap crammed in there!!!!!!!
Fact is, like Bob said, I'm gettin'' home, come hell, or high water, I'm gettin' where Im goin'!!

btw, cell phone in the boat, in pocket, shelf, or what have you. They would get possibly get fried to by lightning strike??
I would think a strike that doesn't take you out, a cell phone on your person should be OK. And if it takes you out, then you don't need it.
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I did not. Lots of people tell me what I say but it is for everybody to read back what I actually write. Often, it is what you wanted to read but not what I wrote nor what I meant.

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You're right Nick...I apologize. I have a tendency to chase after cars in the streets during the day and the exhaust can be overwhelming. You said GAME...not TOY. So I stand by my statement but please replace toy with game...
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@Nick, to me a GPS is a good all rounder tool to have, but, to paraphrase the character in your Icon, a sextant is an elegant tool for a more civilized age.

Yes, when scurvy was out of control and syphillis was rife, sailors were press ganged, and often flogged to death around the fleet, and rarely more than half the crew made it back home... ah, the good old days....
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I would think a strike that doesn't take you out, a cell phone on your person should be OK. And if it takes you out, then you don't need it.
You don't think there would be mobile service in heaven?
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Re: The New and Improved Celestial Navigation Poll

Well, in my case I was an amateur astronomer before a celestial navigator, having built several telescopes from scratch over the years. So, that's probably part of it. So far, my fleeting attempts at star sights have come to naught, but at least I can dispense with the need to use a star finder -- I know all the navigational stars (and that's not hard to learn, btw).

I do find it interesting that our admittedly unscientific poll seems to be showing that the majority of respondents either know celestial or plan to know it. What's up with that in the age of GPS? Maybe S/V Jedi, for all his hyper modernism, is missing the zeitgeist here.
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I do find it interesting that our admittedly unscientific poll seems to be showing that the majority of respondents either know celestial or plan to know it. What's up with that in the age of GPS? Maybe S/V Jedi, for all his hyper modernism, is missing the zeitgeist here.


... or, I am not the new-age type of guy

But I think only sailors who are interested in celestial nav. are in this thread... we should count how many have multihulls vs monohulls, Rocna vs Manson, in-mast furling vs real sails etc.

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... or, I am not the new-age type of guy

But I think only sailors who are interested in celestial nav. are in this thread... we should count how many have multihulls vs monohulls, Rocna vs Manson, in-mast furling vs real sails etc.

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You make a good point. I find myself in agreement with you much of the time. And, I am not trying to defend CN as a practical alternative to anything. It's more spiritual (though gawd, I hate that word!) than practical.
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... or, I am not the new-age type of guy

But I think only sailors who are interested in celestial nav. are in this thread... we should count how many have multihulls vs monohulls, Rocna vs Manson, in-mast furling vs real sails etc.

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I drag mine out every once in a while to see if I still know which hand to hold it in.....by the way, I have a wood monohull, CQR, real sails, WWll sextant, and an I-phone with Navex in it so I wont get lost!
I'll bet I've got the oldest boat and sextant on this thread - 1941?
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I'll bet I've got the oldest boat and sextant on this thread - 1941?

Beat me on the boat, but my sextant (from my Dad) is dated 1938, with vernier scale rather than micrometer
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I submit! You can bet we both saw action.
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I do find it interesting that our admittedly unscientific poll seems to be showing that the majority of respondents either know celestial or plan to know it.


Out of those "plan to" people, how many will. I was just being honest. To even really put it on the to do list would be if a long off shore trip was in the planning, otherwise a compass should suffice.

btw - started reading the pdf, only got to where it said something about needing a graphing calculator. Is that true?
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Out of those "plan to" people, how many will. I was just being honest. To even really put it on the to do list would be if a long off shore trip was in the planning, otherwise a compass should suffice.
I guess my question is why does everyone think celestial is some kind of black art? It's not.

The theory is simple, the practice even more so. It's what? Half a dozen or fewer corrections, a couple of interpolations and then, bingo!

Really, what's the big fracking deal? I flunked high school algebra, and even I can do it!

I'd bet most people spend as much time trying to figure out their fancy chartplotter/GPS/radar/popcorn popper.
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Out of those "plan to" people, how many will. I was just being honest. To even really put it on the to do list would be if a long off shore trip was in the planning, otherwise a compass should suffice.

btw - started reading the pdf, only got to where it said something about needing a graphing calculator. Is that true?
...out of those cruising people...how many will cruise?
...out of those looking to buy a boat...how many will?
The list is endless. I guess a sub-category could be...
Those who have a boat, have sailed and have invested in a sextant...
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What I find interesting about the poll, it breaks down to 52% do not currently know how to CN. I would say 48% is a huge number considering the make up of the forum being 75% coastal and inland waters sailors, and the other 25% passage making cruisers and Merchant Mariners.
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