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Old 23-08-2013, 07:43   #901
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS

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Items recovered last heard from on July 4.


Searchers are unsure of the source of two plastic containers, found today in the hunt for the missing yacht Nina.
search spokesman John Funnell said.
"They could be from the Nina or they could just as easily be from something else.''

That's ridiculously wrong to give the same probability they are from Nina as any other source maritime, or from land, flotsam or jetsam.

The chance they are from any one vessel is so extraordinarily low after 80 days at sea.

My belief is, with comments like that, the search operators are artificially inflating the chances of any successful search. And not just by a small margin, but a huge margin.


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Old 23-08-2013, 08:34   #902
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I do not read that line the same way you do, Mark. I believe they're trying to say what you say: that it is unlikely to be from Niña because it could be from any vessel.


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I would leave the containers well alone unless someone can pick them up and try to identify. Oceans are full of floating garbage.

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Old 23-08-2013, 13:29   #904
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What puzzles me is that no reports on the exact position and date of this "possible"......I can understand that perhaps not enuf to launch an SAR, but would seem sensible to let folks who may be travelling in the area know so can keep an eye out.
Don't know if this helps ... this was posted a day or so ago, from which we could assume NASA is involved somehow ..

August 18, 2013 Houston Texas USA --- Space City USA ---- RCC NZ and TES/NASA/KIWI working together to confirm the location of OBJECT "A". These search boxes are the latest from TES Volunteers (yellow search area boxes) and the latest from RCC NZ (red search area boxes).

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

and I believe you can take the coordinates from this image and add to your own google earth and find exactly where they are placing it ...

not shilling or working for anyone ... just reading here and adding what I have found online ...

and still hoping.
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Ok, that gives an indication - North of NZ.
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Re: Schooner Nina - MERGED 3 THREADS

The coordinates noted on Baird's Facebook image (linked below) are about 112 NM west of Norfolk Island and about 240 NM north of the estimated position on June 3rd (33S 165E). If all this true, they'd have been drifting north at about 1/2 knot on average.

The June 3rd position estimate is from a Friends of Nina's post (#754)...

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MCDAV JUN 3 -33.000000 165.000000 Fair (Estimate only- no position recorded) phone call to Bob McDavitt asking for weather.
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Working on Tomnod images tonight. Water is very rough from this day.
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240 NM north of the estimated position on June 3rd (33S 165E). If all this true, they'd have been drifting north at about 1/2 knot on average.
Against the current.

By the way, Hud, 240 nms / 60 days, not 30.. June 4 to Aug 4 = .17knot.
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Whilst OT, I hope that the mods will let me correct an error in your post.

Australia is facing a challenge with asylum seekers arriving by sea. As a signatory to the Refugee Convention Australia has obligations to asylum seekers however they arrive. Around 97% of arrivals to the Australian jurisdiction by sea are assessed as being entitled to refugee status.

Asylum seekers are NOT illegal arrivals.
Seems however that the majority currently are in fact economic refugees and Australia has a very good social security system for them.
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Holding hope with you Cherie, holding firmly with you.
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Web page gives a lot of info on the drift modelling and searches. We have suspended the searches until we have had a closer look at some of the objects that have been seen.
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The post giving the link to the site asking for donations has been deleted. If you wish to send this info to another member do it by pm. It is not allowed on the open forum. This has to end I am afraid. Please, in the interests of keeping this thread open for you all, do not post links to these sites. If it continues the decision of whether this thread remains open could be not in your favour.

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