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Old 21-08-2015, 18:16   #106
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Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Its a beautifull sunny day in Melbourne today, Very little wind,
You should have a good trip in,
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Old 21-08-2015, 20:09   #107
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...but doesn't look like our Flinders mooring will be too comfortable. .
From my limited experience that is not unusual. Have a great trip, fair winds and all that.

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Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

I have always thought that for PPH 'Slack Water Flood' could be better expressed as "Slack Water at start of Flood'....

Anywaze its simpler than this one...

'Slack Water is at HW Punta Arenas plus 2 hours 20 minutes.
The tide then runs north for approximately 8 hours
Slack water is at LW Punta Arenas plus 4 hours 20 minutes.
The tide then runs south for about 4 hours.'

which I had to work out for myself while sitting for a week with a blown head gasket looking at a gap maybe 15 metres wide with 5 knots gurgling through it....
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Old 22-08-2015, 03:32   #109
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I have always thought that for PPH 'Slack Water Flood' could be better expressed as "Slack Water at start of Flood'....

Anywaze its simpler than this one...

'Slack Water is at HW Punta Arenas plus 2 hours 20 minutes.
The tide then runs north for approximately 8 hours
Slack water is at LW Punta Arenas plus 4 hours 20 minutes.
The tide then runs south for about 4 hours.'

which I had to work out for myself while sitting for a week with a blown head gasket looking at a gap maybe 15 metres wide with 5 knots gurgling through it....
Are you talking abut Chile by any chance?
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Old 22-08-2015, 14:42   #110
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Are you talking about Chile by any chance?
Yep ... Paso O'Ryan, Ackwalnisan ...needed an early slack water before the tide started going my way to get enough daylight on the far side to get into the next anchorage.
Tides are fun... or not...it depends.
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Well guys, despite having perfect sailing conditions it looks like won't be continuing. We brought the boat down to the Tamar heads last night so we could get away early this morning but as the winds were a bit high we are sitting here waiting for it to calm down, which it is, but my crewman is getting a bit anxious about going. So, am cancelling and turning back up the river.

Just as well Docklands will give me 12 months to use the deposit as they don't give refunds.
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Well, discretion is the better part of valour I suppose, but what a shame.


I must admit I was closely watching the forecast for your trip and I got the impression of a pretty brisk following wind or a very broad reach. Conditions that would have helped our old tank get moving at least, but probably a bit of a washing machine with the wave reflections that seem to dog Bass Strait from my limited experience. I would guess it was going to be a reasonably quick but mildly uncomfortable journey in a boat like ours, don't know how other boats would have faired.


At least your thread helped everyone with the general understanding of the behaviour of the Rip. I'll be sure to refer to it again before we next go through, whenever that turns out to be.


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Well, discretion is the better part of valour I suppose, but what a shame.


I must admit I was closely watching the forecast for your trip and I got the impression of a pretty brisk following wind or a very broad reach. Conditions that would have helped our old tank get moving at least, but probably a bit of a washing machine with the wave reflections that seem to dog Bass Strait from my limited experience. I would guess it was going to be a reasonably quick but mildly uncomfortable journey in a boat like ours, don't know how other boats would have faired.


At least your thread helped everyone with the general understanding of the behaviour of the Rip. I'll be sure to refer to it again before we next go through, whenever that turns out to be.


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It certainly would have been a following sea and I suspect about 4 hours of motoring from around 4pm. But, I think it would have been quite calm. It was cold going back up the Tamar and against the tide I was only doing 2 knots at 2500 revs.

That's the third trip I've had to cancel. I don't think non sailors realize what such trips cost to plan financially. Anyway, home and warm now. Perhaps when he's feeling more up to it I'll have another go.
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Perhaps when he's feeling more up to it I'll have another go.
How about you post on CF when you are looking for crew? That way you'll get people who are really keen to sail.

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I think I gave the wrong impression there. My son is usually very keen but his health is not very good at the moment.

The other trips were cancelled for different reasons. 2013 cut short due to weather after two weeks. Then last year/Christmas time a trip to Hobart when my wife back home took very sick and I had to return.

I'm pretty keen to start solo sailing to be honest. I don't know if I can do it or not, but I'd like to give it a go.
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I'm pretty keen to start solo sailing to be honest.
...? What? You mean there's another way of doing it!?

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Sorry it didn't work out RC. Good luck for next time.

If you wanted to singlehand Tamar to Melbourne, what route would you choose to maximize your rest?
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I'm pretty keen to start solo sailing to be honest. I don't know if I can do it or not, but I'd like to give it a go.
It's not hard, even I can do it. I had a 25 year break from sailing and after a few weeks with a crew on my boat I started soloing.

When we sailed from Devonport to Melbourne we went to the Tamar, Goose island, Deal island, Refuge Cove, Flinders, Melbourne(can't remember if we stopped in the bay). All were day trips.

Tamar to Goose island was a long leg and we arrived at dusk and had a nasty night there dragging. Would probably prefer split the Tamar to Deal part into 3 nights rather than 2 and find better shelter. Perhaps on the first day just following the north coast and spending the night on the coast before heading north.


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Bad luck but as said discretion is the better part of valour
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Sorry it didn't work out RC. Good luck for next time.

If you wanted to singlehand Tamar to Melbourne, what route would you choose to maximize your rest?
I'd go directo from Low Head to Walkerville in Waratah Bay ... about 130 or so miles... an easy run if you have a commanding breeze.. so less than 24 hours... start early so you have a daylight eta. Its a good anchorage in westerlies...

Then poke on up and anchor by the big sand dune in the bight inside Woolamai ... after that just wander on up to the Heads...

I've done variations on that theme a few times but not solo....
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Sorry it didn't work out RC. Good luck for next time.

If you wanted to singlehand Tamar to Melbourne, what route would you choose to maximize your rest?
Well, until I know what I can do I'm not sure. But if it's going to be overnight, then San Remo or Flinders is 30-36 hours. I don't see a lot of point of going to Walkerville as its still an overnight trip but doesn't get me any closer to the destination (Melbourne).

My first sail will probably be Port Sorell. Just a short one, but I'm out the heads. Then again Badger Island (or Goose) are both easy non over nighters.
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