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Old 14-04-2016, 05:13   #196
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Did you zoom in on that note that says Military Exercise Areas - "See lower zoom levels" just below your track?

I think you will find that it says says "Gunnery exercises are conducted in the areas...Mariners should guard Channel 16 when in the vicinity of these areas".
Well of course I 'zoomed in'

And in future I'll zoom in and read it before they start shooting at me
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Well of course I 'zoomed in'

And in future I'll zoom in and read it before they start shooting at me
FYI Supposedly, the first Allied shots and certainly the first Aussie shots of both WW1 & WW2 were done nearby at Fort Nepean. They seem to be very trigger happy on the Peninsular

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Nepean

The first Australian shots (many sources report the first Allied shots) of both World War I and World War II were fired from Fort Nepean.[2][3][4][5][6][Note 1]

On 5 August 1914, the German ship SS Pfalz attempted to escape from Port Phillip. Within minutes of being notified that war had been declared, Lieutenant-Colonel Sandford at Fort Queenscliff gave an order to Lieutenant C Morris, the Fire Commander at Fort Nepean, to "stop her or sink her".[7] After the Pfalz ignored signals to halt, the B1 gun fired across her bow. The Pfalz then turned around and the crew was arrested at Portsea.

At 1.30am on 4 September 1939, within hours of war being declared, the A1 gun fired across the bow of a ship which failed to identify itself. The ship then identified as the Australian freighter SS Woniora.

These were the only occasions any of the Port Phillip batteries fired in anger.[6]
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FYI Supposedly, the first Allied shots and certainly the first Aussie shots of both WW1 & WW2 were done nearby at Fort Nepean. They seem to be very trigger happy on the Peninsular

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Nepean

The first Australian shots (many sources report the first Allied shots) of both World War I and World War II were fired from Fort Nepean.[2][3][4][5][6][Note 1]

On 5 August 1914, the German ship SS Pfalz attempted to escape from Port Phillip. Within minutes of being notified that war had been declared, Lieutenant-Colonel Sandford at Fort Queenscliff gave an order to Lieutenant C Morris, the Fire Commander at Fort Nepean, to "stop her or sink her".[7] After the Pfalz ignored signals to halt, the B1 gun fired across her bow. The Pfalz then turned around and the crew was arrested at Portsea.

At 1.30am on 4 September 1939, within hours of war being declared, the A1 gun fired across the bow of a ship which failed to identify itself. The ship then identified as the Australian freighter SS Woniora.

These were the only occasions any of the Port Phillip batteries fired in anger.[6]
Very interesting. Thanks Hoppy.

Thank yo too to everyone who has provided information and assistance in transiting the Rip. Perhaps when I leave in a weeks time it will be a little more challenging. I'm presuming when I leave I will want to leave on the slack of the high tide?
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..... I'm presuming when I leave I will want to leave on the slack of the high tide?
Poor way of expressing it.... slack water at the start of the flood is what I think you are trying to say.

In which case 'no'.

If it was me I would push up against the last of the flood with the aim of being on the western side ( 4 fingers west) abeam of Pt Lonsdale at slack water at the start of the ebb. Then you will pop out like a cork out of a bottle...
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Poor way of expressing it.... slack water at the start of the flood is what I think you are trying to say.

In which case 'no'.

If it was me I would push up against the last of the flood with the aim of being on the western side ( 4 fingers west) abeam of Pt Lonsdale at slack water at the start of the ebb. Then you will pop out like a cork out of a bottle...
No, slack water at the start of the water going out is what I was trying to say . Slack water at the start of the Ebb sounds much more professional

Thanks Ping I'll follow that advice on my way out.

We have just left Queenscliff for Melbourne via the West channel. Should get in before dark.
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No, slack water at the start of the water going out is what I was trying to say . Slack water at the start of the Ebb sounds much more professional

Thanks Ping I'll follow that advice on my way out.

We have just left Queenscliff for Melbourne via the West channel. Should get in before dark.
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Last time I left melbourne I rode the ebb tide out to the heads, then hove too under the mornington peninsular until it was bang on slack tide then high tailed it out before the flood tide got going too strong. Worked well for me. Flat as a pancake and not more than a knot or so against me. The time before I thought Id ride the last of the ebb flow out and got hammered. Should have waited an hour for slack water... Its a nasty stretch of water for sure.

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... it was bang on slack tide ... and got hammered.
Really mate, probably a poor choice of words there. :^P
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Really mate, probably a poor choice of words there. :^P
You've been at sea too long!
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Really mate, probably a poor choice of words there. :^P
ha ha, I get that

I don't know yet what the winds will do, but when I return to Tassie next week on my own, I might head across to Grassy on King Island. I have a week to get home, so I might as well make it count. And that way I avoid them pesky military fellas wanting to have another pot shot at the Shrek going past.
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ha ha, I get that

I don't know yet what the winds will do, but when I return to Tassie next week on my own, I might head across to Grassy on King Island. I have a week to get home, so I might as well make it count. And that way I avoid them pesky military fellas wanting to have another pot shot at the Shrek going past.
Once you're at King Is., there are lots of potential stopping places along the way, and day hopping will be easy. Enjoy.

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ha ha, I get that

I don't know yet what the winds will do, but when I return to Tassie next week on my own, I might head across to Grassy on King Island. I have a week to get home, so I might as well make it count. And that way I avoid them pesky military fellas wanting to have another pot shot at the Shrek going past.
Well.... if you keep coming North just a teensy tiny bit further, with just a little bit of West too... I'll be hanging around Kangaroo Island for the next week and half. I've loaded the boat up with just about half the workshop, so knocking up that extra bit for the auto pilot should be simple.
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I wish. I seriously wish.
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I wish. I seriously wish.
Ha, actually I thought it was RC who posted the original quip... The jokes get even worse after a few months at sea!
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