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Old 12-04-2016, 21:42   #151
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Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

We sailed up from Queenscliff to Sandringham on Monday afternoon departed Queenscliff at about 1430. The West channel marker looked like the coning tower of a submarine the water was rushing past it in to the bay so quickly. Enjoy the ride.
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Old 12-04-2016, 23:22   #152
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I'm not sure you have this right Ping. At the rip the 7:10am is a low, which means from then until 2:09 it's going to flood into the bay?
I think you should be having a sleep in and a lazy morning

After the 7:10 slack, the max time and rate says it will be flowing out of the bay at 6.12 knots at 10 am in the direction of 200 degrees
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Rates in Knots, Positive (+) Direction to 038 degrees, Negative (-) Direction to 200 degrees

Given that the low at Point Lonsdale will be at 10:36, then it makes sense that after the 7:10 slack the water will be flowing out of the bay
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or at least that's my novice interpretation of it.

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Old 12-04-2016, 23:34   #153
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Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

I'm back...

Slack water is at 0710...Max ebb and *low water* at Lonsdale 1000 and 1036 respectively.

Nothing really bad can happen if approaching from outside during the ebb... apart from getting pounded by a series of standing waves.... that can be pretty nasty.... in fact that can be and has been fatal...
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Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

I've had to wait hours for internet again. I got the 'flow rate' mixed up with the tide heights Ping. Doesn't help that I can't access things constantly.

I'd rather come in at the 2pm slack. That gives us time to sleep tonight and get around there for 2 pm.
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I'm sure I've mentioned it before in this thread.... you can enter any old time during the flood ... not just at slack water at the start of the flood.
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Yep I think we will do that Hoppy. I'm stuffed. I don't know how solo sailors do this day after day, weeks, months.
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Yep I think we will do that Hoppy. I'm stuffed. I don't know how solo sailors do this day after day, weeks, months.
I wonder the same... I did not sleep much but was reasonable when I did a 2 nighter with one crew but was a pending total wreck when I was solo for 1 night

Where are you overnighting? Only entered the bay once and we spent the night tied up at Flinders pier. I just noticed that google street view goes to the end of the pier (camera on tripod, not the camera car)
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Yep I think we will do that Hoppy. I'm stuffed. I don't know how solo sailors do this day after day, weeks, months.
I find simple watch keeping hard for the first week or so..... after that you slip into a routine... sleep deprivation becomes the norm... but us old pharts don't need much sleep anyway.

That is based on a 2 handed yacht...

My only solo 14 day passage I managed on 3 or 4 hours straight from about 0200-0600 and catnaps between but that was warm water sailing and I had been 2 handed for a few months before that...

Fair winds on the morrow..
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I wonder the same... I did not sleep much but was reasonable when I did a 2 nighter with one crew but was a pending total wreck when I was solo for 1 night

Where are you overnighting? Only entered the bay once and we spent the night tied up at Flinders pier. I just noticed that google street view goes to the end of the pier (camera on tripod, not the camera car)
Last year we picked up a mooring near the pier. Hoping to do the same.
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Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

I pulled alongside the low landing on the inside of the pier. Swell came in and slammed us about badly so beat a retreat onto a spare mooring as advised by local fisherman. Anchoring just off the pier has good holding.


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I pulled alongside the low landing on the inside of the pier. Swell came in and slammed us about badly so beat a retreat onto a spare mooring as advised by local fisherman. Anchoring just off the pier has good holding.


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Thanks. we are just coming in now. About an hour. Winds coming in from the east but die down later to night.
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Just arrived. Picked up one of many private moorings. Fisherman I'd say by the size. It's quite comfortable. Slight roll that's all.
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Too late for dinner at the pub.😡😡
Nice little cove unless there is a strong SE summer blow


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Holy ***** we just got shot at. I thought my engine was back firing until I seen splashes in the water about 500 m further out. Quick zig zag back to west head. I got on the radio to ask how to West Head without getting shot at and we were asked to confirm if we were the yacht just passing west head. Then they told us they have ceased firing until we are through.

Hell, I was a cop for 14 years and never been shot at.

What's the proper procedure?

Am I in trouble now?
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Re: Sailing The Rip into Port Philip Victoria

Well, you are in trouble if they hit you, that's for sure.


But seriously, WTF are they doing? I knew there was some kind of Navy base there but I cannot find any reference to an exclusion zone on Google. Maybe there is something on my charts but I don't have them at the office.


Regardless, there's simply no way they should be firing with someone that close, even if you are in the wrong place they have a responsibility to look first.
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