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Old 16-04-2012, 07:54   #1
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Sailing into BEAR POINT Marina in Orange Beach Alabama

I am trying to figure out the shortest route from the Gulf to Bear Point marina in Orange Beach Alabama. I have two problems, my 55' bridge clearance and my 6.5' draught.
I have been checking my maps, but i cant get a definite answer from them, especially about the depth of the channel in that area after crossing the Perdido Pass bridge and turning East.

I am wondering if anybody has visited that area or been there and knows the water depth and the safest and shortest route to get to Bear Poing Marina?

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Old 16-04-2012, 17:55   #2
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We kept our Endeavour 35 - 53 1/2' mast just inside Perdido Pass at Orange Beach for 5 years. No problem. 55' might be marginal at high side. The pass can be rough and shallow in places. The channel from the pass to intercostal water way has had some shoaling in the past. Coming from West I would use Mobile Ship channel and intercoastal and you won't have a problem. We are now on Bon Secour River at Marker #20 if you need a stop over. Stay in center of channel plenty of water. 251-979-7065 Phil
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Old 16-04-2012, 18:11   #3
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Ditto what Phil said. If coming from the west take the icw from Mobile bay. If coming from the east come through Pensacola pass and use the ICW. You shouldnt have a problem with 6.5 ft draft as long as you stay in the channels, but 55ft at Perdido Pass would be very tight.
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Old 16-04-2012, 19:44   #4
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Re: Sailing into BEAR POINT Marina in Orange Beach Alabama

thanks gentlemen.
what if i am coming from the south? i guess it is way too shallowto attempt. my charts show there is a channel, 7 feet is the shallowest that ive seen, but i cant just trust the chart with 6". ive done it once in chendelliers sound, and i swore i would never do it again.
Phil, do you mind if i called you tomorrow either before 0945 or after 1800 central. Are you a marina down there? Ive seen you are a commercial member but i wasnt sure.
Both ways I am looking for a marina in that area that I can afford, be it Bear Point or any other one with a close proximity to the open Gulf water.( ie minimum motoring required)

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Old 17-04-2012, 04:56   #5
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Private dock. End tie but long enough. Overnite OK. Bear Point is a long motor to the Gulf either way. Ok on phone. Phil
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Re: Sailing into BEAR POINT Marina in Orange Beach Alabama

that is what i am trying to do. the most critical area is in the box or rectangle.
has anybody been through that route and has a solid depth reading?
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Old 18-04-2012, 09:34   #7
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that is what i am trying to do. the most critical area is in the box or rectangle.
has anybody been through that route and has a solid depth reading?
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As long as you stay in the channel you will be ok depth wise. You will need to be to the west side entering Perdido Pass. The way you have it marked on the picture will put you into a rocky shoal area. It is clearly marked though and is not difficult to follow once you are there. I do not think you will make the bridge clearance at 55ft. There is a lot of current in that pass, and the highest point of the bridge is 55ft. It is on the far east side. I was nervouse going under the first time in my C34 as I wasnt sure of the clearance in the middle of the bridge. If you are coming in from the gulf I would come into Mobile Bay and take the ICW.

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Old 18-04-2012, 18:45   #8
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I sent your map to three guys that live on the island just to the south of your rectangle and told them your perameters and this was their replys. The second one lives at the east end of your rectangle you can see his dock. Proceed at you own risk.

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I haven't been in the pass for a few years but my understanding is that the deep passage is not where the bridge has the most vertical clearance. I wouldn't try it, I don't think you could make it under in the best circumstances and now they got all the stuff hanging down while they work on it.



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Sailing into BEAR POINT Marina in Orange Beach Alabama

This guy has a 6.5 foot draft/ 55 ' mast sailboat and wants to come and go this way. Two of us have already told him it is marginal at best. The area he has marked is where there was shoaling while we were at Perdido pass years ago. Any idea about this area now. In case you need pass words to get in. "Phil Turner" "bonsecour".

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this guy needs to cut his mast and keel if he wants to do this.



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Old 18-04-2012, 20:13   #9
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Re: Sailing into BEAR POINT Marina in Orange Beach Alabama

Thanks gentlemen.
Thats what I wanted to know. that info that I cant get without being there. I appreciate your local knowledge. I will be looking around for other marinas that are closer to the gulf or just accept the idea of motoring for 15 nm to bearpoint.
if by any chance ant of you knows of an alright marina, please let me know.
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Old 19-04-2012, 11:31   #10
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Thanks gentlemen.
Thats what I wanted to know. that info that I cant get without being there. I appreciate your local knowledge. I will be looking around for other marinas that are closer to the gulf or just accept the idea of motoring for 15 nm to bearpoint.
if by any chance ant of you knows of an alright marina, please let me know.
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I am not as familiar with the Mobile Bay area, but I think there is a marina around Ft. Morgan? Might be something on Dauphin Island as well. If you decide to come through the Pensacola Pass South Wind Marina will be the closest to the Pass.

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SWORRJR,
south wind marina looks the best option so far. i will call them during their buisness hrs.
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Ill keep ya'll posted.
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South wind marina looks the best option. Price, proximity to the Gulf, accescubility and depth are the best configuration. Ill be checking it out tomorrow.
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Old 20-04-2012, 16:06   #13
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South wind marina looks the best option. Price, proximity to the Gulf, accescubility and depth are the best configuration. Ill be checking it out tomorrow.
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The only thing about South Wind is that there is not a ships store. They have fuel and rest rooms, but that is it or at least it was the last time I was out there. You could call a cab though. There are grocery stores, etc. nearby just not with in walking distance.
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