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Old 19-02-2008, 16:49   #1
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Notice to Mariners (Pacific)

This little tidbit was gleaned from Yahoo news today:

"The government issued notices to mariners to remain clear of a section of the Pacific beginning at 10:30 p.m. EST Wednesday, indicating the first window of opportunity to launch an SM-3 missile from a Navy cruiser, the USS Lake Erie, in an effort to hit the wayward satellite."

The tidbit doesn't say *where* to remain clear of and I couldn't find the local notice to mariners covering different parts of the Pacific. I tried, Gord!
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Old 19-02-2008, 16:55   #2
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Thats cool...I hope they blow it to hell.
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Anyone remember Skylab? Anyone of our mates from Australia get a piece?

Any guesses how far off the prediction the splash is? I can't believe our present group of geniouses is gonna get this even close to right...

If it's headed east to west I'm gonna find a subway station or bomb bunker to hide in. Anyone know where I can get a bio suit real quick?
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Old 19-02-2008, 17:32   #4
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Any guesses how far off the prediction the splash is? I can't believe our present group of geniouses is gonna get this even close to right...
There's no "o" in genius, genius.
"Our" current crop is pretty sharp. Not sure where about you are.
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Think if JPL can hook up with a moving comet in space and bring back a piece they should be able to do this. We actually have been able to shoot down satellites with high flying F-15's for some time now.
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There's no "o" in genius, genius.
"Our" current crop is pretty sharp. Not sure where about you are.
Picking on spelling mistakes and typos is the lowest form of on-line argument. I am sure you were being facetious when you referred to me as a genius.

Which is interesting because I did not infer anywhere that I was a genius. Nor did I insult you or anyone else personally, yet you chose to insult me.

In regards to where I am it's right below my Avatar.
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Picking on spelling mistakes and typos is the lowest form of on-line argument. I am sure you were being facetious when you referred to me as a genius.

Which is interesting because I did not infer anywhere that I was a genius. Nor did I insult you or anyone else personally, yet you chose to insult me.

In regards to where I am it's right below my Avatar.
Facetious is the only word in the English language with all the vowls in a row.S'all I know.Mudnut.
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Anyway,the biggest problem the yanks have is getting thier own missile to recognise that one off thier own satelites is the enemy.The bad thing is that it is the fuel(450 Ltr's)that's harmful,very toxic.enough in fact to create a bad scenerio for 1/3rd the population of Brisbane Australia,if it hit land that is.If they miss and it hits the ocean who knows what it would do to the sea life in the area.Thats not all I know ,but It's enough.Mudnut.
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I remember Skylab. I also remember some American Dude making a real stupid comment. When asked in a press interview about the Satilite hitting then Australia, his reply was, "won't be a problem, there's only dust and Kangaroo's there anyway". Of course that was over thirty years ago now, so it may not be exactly word for word.
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Well if there shooting that missile off in my back yard, chances are the junk is falling close to here.
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...The bad thing is that it is the fuel(450 Ltr's)that's harmful,very toxic.enough in fact to create a bad scenerio for 1/3rd the population of Brisbane Australia,if it hit land that is.If they miss and it hits the ocean who knows what it would do to the sea life in the area.Thats not all I know ,but It's enough.Mudnut.
Mudnut,

You can make a batch of that stuff (hydrazine) in your kitchen by mixing chlorine bleach with ammonia.

Just another useless fact...
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Navy to Shoot Down Malfunctioning Satellite
The following appears to be the NOTAM for the operation to destroy USA 193 using a missile (near Hawaii):
Goto:
SeeSat-L Feb-08 : USA 193 NOTAM released?
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http://satobs.org/seesat_ref/06057A/...unverified.pdf

PHZH HONOLULU CONTROL FACILITY

02/062 (A0038/08) - AIRSPACE CARF NR. 90 ON EVELYN STATIONARY RESERVATION WITHIN
AN AREA BNDD BY 3145N 17012W 2824N 16642W 2352N 16317W 1909N 16129W 1241N 16129W
1239N 16532W 1842N 17057W 2031N 17230W 2703N 17206W SFC-UNL. 21 FEB 02:30 2008
UNTIL 21 FEB 05:00 2008. CREATED: 18 FEB 12:51 2008
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here is a link to a news story that qoutes the NOTAM

US declares 1400-mile Pacific sat-shoot exclusion zone | The Register
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The actual USCG NOTAM
LOCAL NOTICE TO MARINERS
District: 14 - Week: 08/08
Goto (page 2):
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/lnm/d14/lnm14082008.pdf

PACIFIC OCEAN - NORTHERN HAWAIIAN ISLANDS - MISSILE LAUNCH
The Pacific Missile Range will be conducting missile launch exercises on February 20, 2008 (back-up dates February 21st, 22nd, 23rd, and 24th), from 1630W - 1900W in an area bounded by the following coordinates:
31-45N/170-12W, 28-24N/166-42W, 23-52N/163-17W, 19-09N/161-29W, 12-41N/161-29W, 12-39N/165-32W, 18-42N/170-57W, 20-31N/172-
30W, 27-03N/172-06W thence to the point of origin.
In the interest of safety, it is requested all vessels remain clear of the area during specified times. Concerned mariners may contact the Pacific Missile Range Facility on VHF-Ch 16, HF 2182, or CB-Ch 22 prior to transit.
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I am sure you were being facetious when you referred to me as a genius.
Yes I was. I took your post as an insult aimed at the men and women involved in the project. Guess we had a misunderstanding, sorry.

Back to the point. The sat is moving along at something like 5 miles a second. This going to be like hitting a bullet with a bullet.
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