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Old 13-05-2013, 09:57   #136
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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

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hi all brave members,
im a relative too the danish member on board the SY lady domina.
i have posted a link to a picture of the lady domina. this might give you a better view of what the colors and shape the LD have. this picture has not gone public before.
stay safe.
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TBH, from the previous comments / description I was expecting some homebuilt POS!

Looks smart (albeit pictures of boats do lie!) - has a look of steel built about her.


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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

hoejfed.. Please read your PM (personal mail)

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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

A good question, Tore. Is that a wheelhouse, open below, or just a hard dodger? WIth a conventional cockpit and companionway below to secure the hull?
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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

I think,just a dodger. Probably a hatched companionway below.

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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

That picture leaves more questions than it answers.

I am in DOJ's camp - this is not what I was expecting. She looks like a motor-sailer - especially with that huge freeboard and high "pilothouse" - but nonetheless looks very capable of the sail part of a motor sailer.

Why on earth would they not have a set of sails?

I hope they are ok.
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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

She IS classified as a motor sailer and she certainly has a high freeboard in this photo.

However,unless Im very wrong,a lot deeper in the water and smaller freeboard in a later photo taken shortly before departure.

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She IS classified as a motor sailer and she certainly has a high freeboard in this photo.

However,unless Im very wrong,a lot deeper in the water and smaller freeboard in a later photo taken shortly before departure.

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If so, they have sails furled on both fore- and solent-stay so are not without sails.
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She IS classified as a motor sailer and she certainly has a high freeboard in this photo.

However,unless Im very wrong,a lot deeper in the water and smaller freeboard in a later photo taken shortly before departure.

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Compared to older picture, lifelines and stanchions seem missing?
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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

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However,unless Im very wrong,a lot deeper in the water and smaller freeboard in a later photo taken shortly before departure.
Good point. Perhaps with all the fuel, water, stores and apparently a large quantity of tools, spares, she might be deeply loaded? I could also be a matter of perspective, I suppose, since one picture is more or less broadside and the other is head on. If she is at deep load in the later photo, then by the time she neared the Azores, she will have used a fair amount of the 7 or so tons of diesel fuel on board and presumably a portion of the 8 or so tons of fresh water, which should improve her freeboard; it might though, also adversely alter stability, depending on how the extra spares and tools they apparently are transporting home, were stowed.
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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

epistosaurus..

You are right,the attached photo was taken few days prior to departure and she does not have her stanchions in place for some reason.

The only sail she is missing is her main sail.

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With a head sail they'll make progress.. not fast but they can get there... once over the stream the winds are mainly S round to W..
Doubt the wreckage is anything to do with them..
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I read all post and not found a simple question.

Is the LD call at any time for assistance or help?
I know they not have SSB, EPIRB, SPOT or any satellite device for contatc but have a VHF and supouse flares.
Didi anybody receive an ask for help?
Because I think the guys just be late but nothing make think they have a serius problems, just be drifting somewhere and one off this days they gonna be on some island drinking aquavit.
Familys a shore are normally who be worried and make the scandall and call SAR unnesesary, if they decide to try the passage without any comunication then they are responsable off ther decission and by this not any SAR need to be excecuted.
If they are stupid enough to start this trip, then is their problem.
I am sure they gonna apear ok one off this days.
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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

Motor Sailor is a pretty meaningless / general term - even when on official paperwork.

But from the looks of her, she is beamy and not the biggest of sails plan, so likely that many voyages are undertaken under motor (even if sails up).

As Boatman says, if she does have some sails she will make progress. albeit slow and not neccessarily always in the intended direction!, indeed they may have given up and run downwind - whichever direction that is!

But if they set off without a mainsail of any sort (don't have to be a perfect fit), then kinda dumb.
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If that's a cutter rig they have for certain.. by the pic's.. they should have a decent enough slot for anything up to 60*s of the wind.. likely when they'll motorsail.. don't have the impression these folk rush anywhere..
Could just be floating around taking in the 'Life' out there..
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Re: MISSING 75s.y. LADY DOMINA

Looks like there is a liferaft in a canister on the davits as well as a radar dome on the mast.

Sinbad7,
How are you related to the crew and boat? I don't think I saw that anywhere.

Also at the beginning of the thread you made it sound like it was a totally unseaworthy vessel with no safety equipment or sails. In the photos the boat looks reasonably well found w/ headsails on roller furling and clearly visible safety gear.

Do you know what gear was on the boat or just making guesses?

Do you know for fact there was no mainsail, epirb or communications onboard? It seems very odd they'd do that passage without a mainsail, and if all you're going by is the picture additional sails could easily be stored below.

It's also very easy to see how the trip could take considerably longer than they planned - or you think it should take if they sail the passage as opposed to motor. I've been on passages that took nearly twice as long as anticipated.

Do you put any stock at all in the post saying they heard the Coast Guard talking to the boat recently off of the coast of Puerto Rico? Or that it seems possible maybe one of the crew members was recently on the internet?

I really hope everything works out well and nothing bad has happened. From the information so far it seems possible you could be over reacting. It seems very possible to me they could have sailed for a different destination or just be on a passage taking longer than anticipated.

Where did the expected passage duration come from? Did the captain say that's how long it'd take or is that based on how long you think it should have taken based on motoring at max speed on the rum line? It seemed incredibly optimistic to me.
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