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Old 15-11-2019, 13:54   #1
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La Vagabonde's crossing

Discussion of weather, routing, seamanship of La Vag's crossing - no politics or climate discussion pls.

I updated my routing, using latest position and scaling the polars to their performance to date. The polars are probably still inaccurate because they have not had much reaching/running yet, but they will get better as we see more sailing data.

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says they should tack in about 8 hrs.
the slower polar is pushing them a bit further north mid-route for best speed.
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I have a feeling for a stop at Bahamas, but it depends on the status of the crew. Some seasickness reported on FB. It’s not going to be easy.

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I have a feeling for a stop at Bahamas, but it depends on the status of the crew. Some seasickness reported on FB. Itís not going to be easy.

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Bahamas? More likely Bermuda
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

There's quite an intense low forming to their west, but it looks like that won't be a problem. They should start having some nice southerlies soon lasting a couple of days which will see them make good progress. It will be interesting to see how far south they go.

Hope baby Lenny's ok.
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

I find its interesting that they are heading back to the med, after;

Riley mentioned big changes are coming!
He says he has been obsessed with Catamaran Design for months!
Family is growing!
Outremer is coming out with a new model about to be announced!

New outremer model coming

Perhaps they are doing so well they are up-sizing???
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here is the link to their "current" position tracker.
https://forecast.predictwind.com/tra...ingLaVagabonde
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Greta Thunberg sparks surge in sailboat hitchhiking

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...at-hitchhiking
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Greta Thunberg sparks surge in sailboat hitchhiking

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...at-hitchhiking

AAAAARRRRHHHH! new victims,bring it on
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Is that supposed to the growl of a pirate?

Make them walk the plank?
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

The low forming just to the west of them is forecast for gale if not storm force winds. Looks like they'll miss the worst of it, but may catch some strong southerly winds (presumably on their beam at that point) and some potentially large seas. Could be a rough ride by Sunday pm or so, but hopefully good progress eastward. Lots of variables in the N. Atlantic this time of year.
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Itís a great thing she is on a zero carbon footprint boat. No petroleum based products on that vessel, not a single zero carbon emitting processes used to make any of that technology.. Pffft
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La Vagabonde's crossing

You know, while Iím against the whole using a child for publicity thing and doubt that she is behind this as much as you guys think, I think a few adults are actually pulling the strings.

I do have to hand it to them for trying to lower their CO2 footprint, at least they donít live in huge mansions, travel by private jet, and have large houseboats etc and then try to tell me I need to walk to work or not go on a vacation, you know to save the Earth, while they consume 10 times the average.

Iím not aware of them making any claim that sailing was carbon neutral?
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Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Using the wind to cross an ocean? What a beautiful but difficult thing. It's great that a kid can bring sailing to such a wide media audience. If you read the article linked above about "hitchhiking" it talks about cargo ships eventually moving to carbon neutrality through the use of sail technology. If (errr....when) that becomes established equipment on ocean-going vessels, then we'll have finally hit on a plan to decrease global emissions because I don't see personal consumptions (I.e., cheap goods) decreasing anytime soon. Anyway, I hope Greta has a super nice passage It would be fun to hear what a newbie really thinks about taking a racing sailboat over and then a cruising catamaran back. Some of my broker friends might be interested in this, too.
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Hey! What happened to

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Poor example you're setting
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I don't know if it's still in practice, but years ago I read accounts & saw photos of large cargo ships using what looked like huge spinnakers flown off the bow during downwind runs. From what I recall the increase in speed was significant. But then I remember reading that these ships simply increased their diesel propulsion to make even faster passages. So increased efficiency time-wise but no net improvement in fuel consumption/emissions.

The OP started this thread in the Navigation section by requesting that it be limited to matters concerning LAV's crossing. There's another thread for the politics, climate change discussion (unless it's already been closed ). All I'd be inclined to say here is that regardless of other criticisms -- some justified while others not -- I think Greta and her immediate family are sincere in their beliefs and activism. I too am looking forward to seeing them have a successful passage, along with some of the insight I'm sure we'll get from posters with a lot of passage experience.
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