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Old 06-01-2014, 15:57   #1
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Is it worth to take ASA 105 Coastal Nav. Course?

I took the advanced Coastal Cruising (ASA 106) many many moons ago. Since then I have sailed up and down the East Coast from New England to Keys, everywhere in Chesapeake Bay, to Bermuda, BVI, to Central America as well as to Hawaii. I mostly served as the first mate and or as a Captain in short-hand voyages, all in all closes to 10k nm. But I have not finished my ASA 105 course.

Now I have some free time, not sure if it is worth my money and time to take the ASA 105 course to complete my sailing resume. I wonder if the course will help my application to USCG Captain License which I intend to get down the road.

Need some constructive suggestions.
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Old 06-01-2014, 16:15   #2
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Re: Is it worth to take ASA 105 Coastal Nav. Course?

Not sure what you’re asking. Continuing education is always good. As far as USCG, the exec in charge of the regional office, while maybe impressed with all the ASA courses, really doesn’t care.
Can you document sea time and memorize most of the COLREG’s?
Can you pass muster for a TWIC?
That’s what’s required for your Masters
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Re: Is it worth to take ASA 105 Coastal Nav. Course?

I'm with knotnow. Not quite clear what you are asking. If you want to know whether learning the material will help, well yes, of course. If you want to know whether having the certificate will somehow smooth out the process of getting your USCG license... not even one little bit.
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Re: Is it worth to take ASA 105 Coastal Nav. Course?

I got my ASA105 ... Bare boat charter.
It was the minimum insisted on before my insurance company would give me cover.
Now I am told that there is a new UN sponsored qualification that is being required, called the ICC . International certificate of Competency.
Apparently many (most?) European countries now insist on it and it is coming to Australia.
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Re: Is it worth to take ASA 105 Coastal Nav. Course?

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Now I am told that there is a new UN sponsored qualification that is being required, called the ICC . International certificate of Competency.
Apparently many (most?) European countries now insist on it and it is coming to Australia.
Is this what you are talking about? If so, it's seems to be pretty easy to acquire if you are an ASA member.

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I got my ASA105 ... Bare boat charter.
It was the minimum insisted on before my insurance company would give me cover.
Now I am told that there is a new UN sponsored qualification that is being required, called the ICC . International certificate of Competency.
Apparently many (most?) European countries now insist on it and it is coming to Australia.
ASA 105 is Coastal Navigation. ASA 104 is Bareboat charter and is equiv. to ICC.
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I took the advanced Coastal Cruising (ASA 106) many many moons ago. Since then I have sailed up and down the East Coast from New England to Keys, everywhere in Chesapeake Bay, to Bermuda, BVI, to Central America as well as to Hawaii. I mostly served as the first mate and or as a Captain in short-hand voyages, all in all closes to 10k nm. But I have not finished my ASA 105 course.

Now I have some free time, not sure if it is worth my money and time to take the ASA 105 course to complete my sailing resume. I wonder if the course will help my application to USCG Captain License which I intend to get down the road.

Need some constructive suggestions.
I was under the impression that the 105 is a prerequisite to get the 106; that even if you passed the 106, the ASA would not give you the certification without subsequently passing the 105 as well. Is that wrong?
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I was under the impression that the 105 is a prerequisite to get the 106; that even if you passed the 106, the ASA would not give you the certification without subsequently passing the 105 as well. Is that wrong?
You are correct.
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You are correct.
106 includes night navigation, lights ect that's covered in 105 as an example.
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Now I am told that there is a new UN sponsored qualification that is being required, called the ICC . International certificate of Competency.
Apparently many (most?) European countries now insist on it and it is coming to Australia.
The ICC has been around now for over 15 years!. The only country that legally insists on certification is Croatia, ( and I suspect this might get challenged now they are in the EU ) . Some other countries would "like" you to have some form of competency , Greece being one. Croatia accepts a wide variety of qualifications , including ASA and US sailing.

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Re: Is it worth to take ASA 105 Coastal Nav. Course?

My wife and I took the ASA105 "Coastal Navigation" in 2012 and found the course very helpful. Also, ASA105 "Coastal Navigation" is a prerequisite for ASA106 "Advanced Coastal Cruising".

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I took the advanced Coastal Cruising (ASA 106) many many moons ago. Since then I have sailed up and down the East Coast from New England to Keys, everywhere in Chesapeake Bay, to Bermuda, BVI, to Central America as well as to Hawaii. I mostly served as the first mate and or as a Captain in short-hand voyages, all in all closes to 10k nm. But I have not finished my ASA 105 course.

Now I have some free time, not sure if it is worth my money and time to take the ASA 105 course to complete my sailing resume. I wonder if the course will help my application to USCG Captain License which I intend to get down the road.

Need some constructive suggestions.
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