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Old 10-11-2019, 06:39   #1
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How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

has the federal government passed authority on to states to regulate anchoring? what other states are tough? what is future outlook?
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

Country? Region?

This is an international forum, so you need to provide more detail as to where you are referring to.
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Sorry ,Georgia, usa
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

Pretty sure that States mostly have control of their waters and control of harbors and anchoring etc. have always varied depending on where you are talking about. Nothing really has changed and the GA thing is basically now a dead horse.

This thread could have better traction if it included which anchor to use and whether a gun is needed to protect it.
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

Obviously in Georgia waters, yes, as long as they are not interfering in interstate commerce, or any fundamental human right guaranteed by the Constitution.

Takes big pockets to be a test case.

Would be more helpful if you gave the specific location, jurisdiction, LEO / agencies involved other relevant details.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:28   #6
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

Navagatable waters are under federal jurisdiction. Unless Congress has authorized the states to act, they can't intefere with those waters.
"Federal and state governments have concurrent
jurisdiction over navigable waters and the lands
beneath. Federal law also recognizes state and
local authority to regulate anchorages. The
regulatory power of the state is subject to the
paramount authority of the Federal government
for the regulation of interstate and foreign
commerce. States exercise control if it is
consistent with Federal actions or functions, and
does not interrupt commerce.
"The United States Coast Guard (USCG) has the authority to
establish, administer, and enforce anchorage grounds and
regulations for vessels in navigable waters of the United
States (U.S.). Establishing, amending or removing an
anchorage area often originates at the local level, with key
waterway users expressing a need for such an area. The
USCG, or other government agencies, might also determine
a need for an anchorage area."
FEDERAL ANCHORAGE REGULATIONS 33 CFR 110.72d and 33 CFR 110.173
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

I am just stating basically what I heard of the Georgia law in general, state wide anchoring with permit, didn't believe it involved particular jurisdiction,but instead a state of georia usa, law obviously coastal on permits being required as of jan 1 to anchor in state waters sailorboy says dead in the water please explain, dead in the water as its a done deal? or dead in the water that its been overturned? more info please.
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

Just google and read,


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pas...nchoring-rules
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

Sounds like a luxury tax on rich boaters. What party controls Georgia these days?
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

New cruising restrictions in Georgia (USA)
Georgia proposes to restrict anchoring..
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

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... What party controls Georgia these days?
Georgia became (and has remained) a Republican trifecta* following the 2004 elections, when the Republican Party took control of the state House.
*A trifecta exists when one political party simultaneously holds the governor’s office and majorities in both state legislative chambers.

Self-described political ideology among adults in Georgia:
42% Conservative, 32% Moderate, 20% Liberal, & 6% Don’t Know.
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

When will we finally know what these "protected shellfish beds" actually entail? January 2020 is fast approaching. Or will they just drag out the decisions into the future sometime further than that?

If that is the case can't they just keep adding more areas at will whenever they wish? How are we, as cruisers supposed to keep track of this on a perhaps almost-daily basis if the goalposts can move whenever they feel like it instead of at specific yearly cutoff points?
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

If you give them an inch they become a yardstick
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

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Did everyone read the whole article as suggested by Sailmonkey? Seems positive at this point that the state is listening to the boaters and responding appropriately, at least for now.

From the article:
While our group will remain vigilant as the rest of the rules pertaining to anchorage areas unfold, we view the current status as positive. The abandonment of permitting rules for the time being shows that the voices of boaters are behind heard. Many thanks to all of you who have taken part in this process to date.
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Re: How did ga get away with anchoring permits?

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If you give them an inch they become a yardstick

Exactly. Thats my reading of thar article.

Now that they have their foot in the door they can turn up the heat incrementally later. The ball is in the Georgia DNR's court and they have the mandate from the statehouse to do "whatever they feel necessary" right up to the draconian limits originally spelled out in the original law passed last spring that is now officially on the books.

Anyone who thinks it is over just because the DNR "seems" to be backing down a little (for now) really hasn't been a student of history when it comes to governmental regulatory creepage. It's like boiling crabs in the pot, and the best part for the cook is that if one of the crabs tries to get out of the pot the others will try to pull it right back in.
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