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Old 18-10-2013, 17:53   #1
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Hacking AIS Merged

Interesting read for those with AIS.

Ship Tracking Hack Makes Tankers Vanish from View | MIT Technology Review
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Old 18-10-2013, 18:46   #2
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Re: AIS Hackers

I read where the fix will require new hardware.
And of course, I just bought/installed my AIS. (sigh)
Well, I wanted to upgrade my radar system anyway...
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Old 18-10-2013, 18:59   #3
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Re: AIS Hackers

Yes, and in the old days wreckers would deploy false lights to lure ships onto reefs. Fifty or so years ago there were ways to generate false radar returns and to jam radars.

Just use common sense and cross check all of the available navigational information. Not because someone might be trying to do you harm, but because it is how a good navigator his/her vessel safely from port to port.

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A safe bet that Trend Micro is hard at work on the patch. Like the ammunition manufacturer selling bullet proof vests.

Jamming and reproducing radio signals has been around a long time. I was hoping to see the prices go down on AIS transceivers as it becomes more popular with pleasure craft. This talk of a secure network will come with a price tag.
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BBC News - Ship trackers 'vulnerable to hacking', experts warn

You still have to keep those lookouts......
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Old 19-10-2013, 12:01   #7
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BBC News - Ship trackers 'vulnerable to hacking', experts warn

You still have to keep those lookouts......
elementary dear Watson, simply switch off your AIS transmission if in known piracy danger areas, I think some sets even call it a 'piracy mode'??
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Yes, the elementary equation suggests those ships you bought a receiver to detect will have to be watched for the old fashion way....
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Once again the reporting is horrible. I think the hack is on the network side. Not the VHF side. So if you are using the net to gather data it can be hacked. What is not clear is if the hack is on the transmit side. So that the hack is broadcasting fake data through land based towers or satellites. Anyone able to clarify this. I'm taking this as I get vhf reception of ais target it is real. If I'm web based it could be false. Not clear reporting. Maybe I missed something.
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Trend micro , firstly concentrated on hacking marinetraffc,com by generating fake AIS NMEA messages and feeding them. Since " global monitoring" or the use of AIS over the Internet is NOT imo approved, its an irrelevant excercise, but generates amusing data on marinetrsffic.com

Their second exercise , using a SDR to effectively generate there own AIS over the air messages , is also basically irrelevant, firstly since anyone can switch off AIS , effectively causing a ship to " disappear " is irrelevant

The second one , transmitting bogus data , again AiS makes no commitment that any information so transmitted is actually real ( see the course markers at the Americas Cup ) hence you always need to use other means to verify one source of nav data ( remember that one )

Fundamentally Trend appear clever ( this was a piece done for the hack a day conference ) but mis represent AIS as some sort of global security monitoring service, that's easily hack able ( shock horror drum roll ) where of course, AIS is nothing of the sort. Where authorities so inclined , merely cross referencing mmsi, callsign, name with other vessel reporting system like AMVER for example provides a easy achieve ability to defeat spoofing ( not to mention trying to call up, spoof ships on VHF )

This is the trouble with software techie heads , out of their field of understanding

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Could the threads be combined. It's confusing enough. Looks like bad reporting.
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re: Hacking AIS Merged

That's interesting, wonder if NATO would consider a little ruse and put half a dozen extra destroyers in the Northern Indian Ocean

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WHY??????????? Sounds like this fool needs a real job.
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I resemble that comment but have a job? Which fool were you talking about.
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That's interesting, wonder if NATO would consider a little ruse and put half a dozen extra destroyers in the Northern Indian Ocean

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Could you explain to me how would that work, can you cover 15000 sq miles with a VHF signal then !!! , well perhaps the Somalis could build 10 mile high VHF towers.

Or maybe they just beleive everything they see on marinetraffic.com

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