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Old 09-04-2009, 09:22   #1
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XYZ Anchor

Recieved an e-mail from XYZ Anchor Today. Interesting web site.
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I am interested in some real world input. Does this anchor look like a good "Investment" if you were eventually going to go cruising in the Carribean. Specifically Bahamas, BVI's, etc.

I sail on Georgian Bay in Ontario Canada and the bottom runs the gambit of Sand, Sand/Grass, Rock, Clay.

I was hoping to find a Suitable Does all Anchor as a Main Anchor. Then carry a Big Danforth as a secondary anchor.
My boat is currently a 25ft. But I am planning to move up to 29ft, then if the finances dictate hopefully max out the "two foot itis" at 38ft.
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:45   #2
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I have one, but would not buy again- seems the design has changed a little-
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:52   #3
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manson anchor "Supreme Model"... badd ass design... awesome holding power in virtually everything that it can bite into. go check it out at: Manson Anchors, World's finest Stainless Steel Anchors
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Old 09-04-2009, 13:10   #4
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So far 1 for 1 against.

I'm concerned that the Saw type edge could possibly cut your chain rode.....ruin your day AND lose an expensive anchor.

Thanks cdenneyb for the up side on the Manson anchor....that one is looking Pretty good......80 knots.....all I can say is WOW !.

RAM why would you not purchase again?.
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Old 09-04-2009, 13:41   #5
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RAM why would you not purchase again?.

Its just not much good as an all around Anchor- I bought it , but to me is a waste of good money , I have a Spade and a Mason Supreme also
#1 Mason Supreme
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xyz does not work at all in weeds - good in mud-
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I watched the videos, and there is no question that the anchor buries in soft sand. What the video also demonstrates is that the anchor plows nicely under the sand after it is buried. The plowing while buried makes me nervous. I don't want the anchor to plow and raise a forrow of sand as it drags. If an anchor plows while it is burried, in my book, the anchor is dragging.
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PLEASE note that there is point of balance to be achieved in that respect. As the spade of the supreme manson goes deeper it has more mas above and in front of it, and at some point it will STOP. If you use an anchor that is too small (too lightweight), then the mass of the wind blown or wave pushed vessel will outweigh the resultant resistance to movement created by the mass of the anchor + the depth and angle of penetration as a function of the bottom (sand, rocks, mud, etc.) On a 50' vessel I think they have two options for size. One is a 45# the other 60#, and as you might guess, given a wind that will continue to pull the 45# one thru and attempting to lift it out of the bottom material, the vessel will be "dragging"... but... and here it comes, the 60# has more mass, will tend to resist the upward pull as the anchor rode comes tight from this hurricane force blow and will continue to be pulled at a downward vector, until such time that the upward pull exceeds the tendency for it to go deeper.
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Have you guys..

Have you guys ever watched XYZ's video? It is shot right in the wave/sand mix on a soft sand beach..! Hell if I stood in that location for a minute my feet would be buried. That video shows me squat. Ever sit in a beach chair with your feet in the waves? In little time they sink in and are buried by the wave/sand action. All this without a saw tip.

Show me a video using a calibrated strain gauge, on a very hard bottom, the kind you could drive a two wheel drive car on and not sink in, then perhaps I'd consider one. I have also not heard many good reports on any of the forums of the XYZ.

I would also recommend a Manson Supreme or a Rocna there are MANY happy customers. Spades are now very expensive but another good all round performer.
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We have just completed a trip from CT to FL and have anchored in a number of gales in our 30000lb sailboat. The Manson has never dragged and in fact will at times if the wind is realing blowing set itself before we are even ready to set it. I find it to have awesome holding power. If the tide and curent reverse as it does every 6 hours in the ICW, it has never let go as we reversed direction.... Good luck with your anchor search.
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I don't like the looks of that anchor, it went under but it kept moving, I thought whole point of an anchor was to not let youre boat move but this anchor moved so it is dragging Beugals are good anchors though.
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sounds like no ringing support from real world users. Tests in Sail also showed it was disappointing.
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I really apprieciate all the responses. I think I am going to highly consider the Manson brand. So far it appears to have the most positive real world use.
I wonder if the admiral would like one for her birthday?........uh oh.....now that might cause a new problem !.
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