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Old 03-02-2008, 01:03   #46
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Ummm, only two posts Midland and they are both very far apart and very far from here. I don't think so.
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I understand that a lot of you don't like Craig, or any other anchor vendor posting here...
Absolutley not True. But there are rules and they got broken. We now have a vendors Forum and any anchor vendor can post in there and promote and post what ever sales glossies they have. But they do have to ask permission first so as we can give them a "ticket" for entry. This is so that ones that want to look through the sales BS can if they want without the noise cluttering up the rest of the Forums.
OK, so lets keep this thread on topic please. I don't want this to go down the same track as the other thread.
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:47   #47
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We have been cruising with a Rocna 55 for about 6 months now (maybe more?) and have COMPLETE confidence in the anchor.
Do you mean a 55# Rocna? The Rocna 55 is around 120#.
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:17   #48
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Yes, we are using a 55kg Rocna... not a 55lb.

I just checked the price on a Manson Supreme, but the nearest size I can find is a 100lb Manson Supreme at Defender, I can't find a 55kg Manson Supreme. Regardless the 100lb Manson Supreme costs $1200 at Defender. We paid the same for our (larger) Rocna when we ordered it from Canada. I don't see a significant cost difference, and maybe find the Rocna a bit cheaper.
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Rocna use a Numbering system to denote their anchor range. This is because Rocna work on the area of the flukes for holding. All others )that I know of) use a weight for indicating size. Don't get the two mixed up.
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No, this isn't true. Rocna anchors are numbered according to their weight in kilograms.

Our Rocna 55 weighs 55kg.

Maybe you are thinking of Fortress? Fortress anchors have a number that is supposed to correspond with what an equivalent steel anchor would weigh.
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Old 03-02-2008, 23:53   #51
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Oh OK, I must be confused then. Not hard for me of course. Although I was sure I saw a chart on their website in the early days. But then I am sure I remember seeing a drawing of their anchor along with all the Diamensions and Angles, but OK, must have my macks fuddled.
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ROCNA experience ...

A few weeks ago I purchased a ROCNA 25 (55#) through West Marine (Canadian Mfg.) to replace the Delta 55# which was significantly bent and needed replacement. I found that the Delta a superior anchor in common bottom conditions found in the Bahamas (primary cruising ground) and a big improvement over our previous CQR. A problem with the Delta was in penetrating heavy weed or hard pan where it needed a bit of help in setting; but once set it held (never dragged). A big failing of the Delta was that it never set in light mud bottoms typical of mangrove anchorages (Luperon DR, Salinas PR, etc). These light mud bottoms is where I used a Bruce which I found to set every time and hold effectively. I purchased the ROCNA to replace both of these anchors...the jury is still out so to speak as I don't rec'd anything until after extensive use. But so far it has set every time in mud and heavy weed bottoms and I have noticed a significant reduction in the amount of weed the anchor brings back when retrieving as apposed to the large amount with both the Delta and the CQR; probably due to its quick set characteristics. I am looking forward to using it in the Bahamas and will report back when I have put to more use. In addition to the ROCNA I carry a Fortress 37 and a Fisherman style 55# rock pick.

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ArrHarr, now that's what I am talking about.
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Yes, we are using a 55kg Rocna... not a 55lb.
Wow. I asked because a 55kg anchor is large for your boat (not saying that's a bad thing at all). The 55 is targeted to boats around 70' and 65,000#. No wonder you have complete confidence in it! Enjoy it!

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Yes, we are using a 55kg Rocna... not a 55lb.

I just checked the price on a Manson Supreme, but the nearest size I can find is a 100lb Manson Supreme at Defender, I can't find a 55kg Manson Supreme. Regardless the 100lb Manson Supreme costs $1200 at Defender. We paid the same for our (larger) Rocna when we ordered it from Canada. I don't see a significant cost difference, and maybe find the Rocna a bit cheaper.
Looking at West Marine which carries RONCA and Defender which carries the SUPREME I found a sizable difference in price
RONCA 20KG/44lbs= $659 SUPREME 45lbs= $439
RONCA 25KG/55lbs+ $909 SUPREME 60lbs= $590

I know there are debates here on quality/marketing but the prices are quite a bit different.
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That price difference wasn't there at the size we were purchasing. Had the price difference been there, I still believe we would have purchased the ROCNA but that is just my own preference.

No matter how you slice it, the cost of the anchor is really insignificant compared to what is at stake when you are cruising with it.
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Wow. I asked because a 55kg anchor is large for your boat (not saying that's a bad thing at all). The 55 is targeted to boats around 70' and 65,000#. No wonder you have complete confidence in it! Enjoy it!

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Our boat weighs in excess of 55,000# (according to the travellift operator) with full tanks and all of our cruising gear onboard. We wanted an oversize anchor, we plan for worst case scenario when anchoring.
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The Rocna 55, for example, is 'close to' 55kg (115#). They are made to a 'size' rather than the weight. The weight was used due to too many people being used to sizing anchors by weight, how old school Spade have the same issue, a S100 means 100cm2 not 100# or Kg. A S100 is actually 20kg (45#) off the top of my head.

The Supreme is easy. A Supreme 45# means it's 45#, usually a smidgen over.
Mind you they are built by Westies so nothing tricky for them

It's late in the day so the numbers maybe a bit wobbly even if the gist of the above is right.

A 55kg on a 55, Wow, that's a monster.
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I am much happier now. So I'm not totaly loosing my memory after all. So now we are done with the cooking lesson, can someone direct me....err, what board am I on again???
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