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03-11-2015, 22:47
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Today's test of the fortress (above) went well enough that I had time to re-test the Manson Supreme at short scope.
This time I used even shorter scope at 2.5 to 1. Also, unlike the previous short scope test (Video #2, 2.8 to 1) I was very careful to conduct the "pulls" exactly parallel to the bottom contour lines.
Steve
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18-11-2015, 21:25
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
A dock mate allowed me to use his 50 pound CQR (copy) anchor for the day. The anchor is fairly old but as not been used much. The hinge pivot is not noticeably worn.
Steve
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18-11-2015, 21:43
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Excellent videos. I hope to add to your collection next season using my GoPro. Can you please tell me the length of the line attaching the anchor to the float, the wide angle setting on the GoPro and the editing software you use?
Consider using a red filter on your camera for even more clarity.
Thanks.
Ken
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18-11-2015, 22:15
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Thanks, Ken. GoPro Video setting is "1080 superview". The line between anchor and camera is about 5 feet. I use Windows Movie Maker.
Here is the CQR (copy) with an attempt at the short scope of 2.5 to 1.
Steve
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18-11-2015, 22:51
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
That's some great footage a plow doing its stuff. What brand is the Copy? have you got any close up photo's of the anchor? Very interesting to see just how long it took to set, and how easily it pulled out in both reversals.
It compares very poorly to the Supreme, Fortress and the much smaller Bruce if I recall correctly, I need to go back and rewatch those videos. I assume they are all on the same patch of bottom?
What is interesting is how the plow seems to set quicker on the second short scope test. Maybe it's just luck, but perhaps the higher shank helps the tip engage? Then again it did poorly in the reset test on 2.5 to 1 so maybe it was just a one off quicker (still pretty poor) set.
Very interesting, thanks for posting, and I am glad I've ditched my plow!
Cheers
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18-11-2015, 23:10
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Thanks Snow, I did not recall the brand name of the CQR. I'm planning a wrap-up video that will have some commentary (me) on deck with all the anchors in hand. I'll try and point out relevant features of all the anchors.
The CQR (copy) did have one surprising set on that 2.5 to 1 reset but ultimately released with 3,000 RPM and a little time.
All these test are being conducted within a 200 hundred meters of each other. The bottom is consistent for miles and miles.
I to am glad the world of anchoring has progressed beyond the CQR. However, this is a cqr COPY. The point being, a genuine CQR may set more reliably. I will soon demonstrate a spectacular failure of a Bruce COPY. Stay tuned......
Steve
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18-11-2015, 23:57
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Spade Anchor USA confidently sent to me, a 44 pound, steel Spade Anchor (S100) for testing with the agreement that I either return or purchase the anchor.
Today, I gave the anchor a good testing. Here is the first go at 3.5 to 1 scope
Steve
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19-11-2015, 00:11
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
I'm Very Tuned in, this is the best youtube stuff ever, though my long suffering lady thinks I am completely bonkers as I stare riveted at a screen full of murky water with the odd weird gurgling sounds (from the video, not me!). Many thanks for putting in the effort.
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19-11-2015, 00:45
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Here is the Spade at the very short scope of 2.5 to 1.
I have to say that the setting and re-setting performance of this anchor is exceptional. The Manson Supreme normally sets I little bit faster than the Spade but the Manson has a very hard time coping with the 2.5 to 1 reverse wind/current test.
The Spade handles it with ease. Amazing.
Steve
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19-11-2015, 01:31
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Dismal failure of a 33 pound Bruce (COPY) anchor. This anchor belongs to my next door neighbor and has been gathering dust in his garage for many years (he uses a Rocna on his boat).
My neighbor reported that the anchor originally would not set at all before he improved it by sharpening the toe.
I think it needs a bit more improvement.
Steve
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19-11-2015, 02:22
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Good performance of a 20 pound Danforth (GENUINE).
This is in stark contrast to the complete failure of the Danforth Copy that I tested previously.
I am beginning to see a pattern here. It has to do with Genuine anchors (they work) and Copies (they do not work).
Steve
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19-11-2015, 03:08
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
12 Pound Northill Anchor (Genuine). These anchors were used in WW2 Navy Seaplanes as they are collapsible and fit into a small space.
My father found this anchor on the bottom of Puget Sound many years ago and he uses it very successfully in his 18 foot fishing boat of heavy construction.
Steve
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19-11-2015, 03:43
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
I re-tested the Genuine Bruce (33 pounds) at the scope of 2.5 to 1.
The anchor performed brilliantly at higher scope but at this very short scope the anchor struggled but did eventually set.
Steve
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19-11-2015, 04:16
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
Since the other top performing anchors got the short scope treatment (2.5 to 1), I figured I had better re-test the Fortress as well.
The anchor was exceptional at longer scopes but like all the rest (except the Spade), the fortress had problems with 2.5 to 1. It did eventually set and re-set.
I should stress that 2.5 to 1 scope is much shorter than what was ever intended by the anchor makers to be used. I chose to test with this scope so as to explore the limits.
Steve
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19-11-2015, 20:22
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#30
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Re: Videos of Anchors Setting
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