Securing to the Dock

[davevancat]

i have a question regarding tying up my sailboat to the dock. ive always been under the impression that it was best to secure the boat bow and stern tightly to the dock then setup the spring lines. couple of fellow boaters in my marina are telling me that its better to leave the lines slack. i would think that with winds or current that the boat wiould tend to slam into the dock more that way. can someone please expalin this to me. thank you

[pjop]

IMVHO it just depends on the direction of waves, current and wind in relation to the dock. I would think a bit of slack would help in placement of fenders and keeping the toe rail from scraping along the side of piers, which in somecases is worse then a bump. I can see tying her tight too if there are waves bouncing her off the dock.

[Sahara]

Are you tying to a floating dock? Fixed pier with a big tide range?

If a fixed pier with significant tides, you want long bow and stern lines, led well fore and aft, as well as long springs, all with enough slack to absorb the tide rise and fall. If there are pilings alongside, fender boards may be in order. Similar if you're in a slip that has you tie to pilings. Even at a floating dock, I'm inclined to leave some slack so the lines don't fetch up tight with every little passing wake, and so I'm not constantly crushing the fenders (even though they are fleece covered). Springs should always be long, so that a little roll doesn't put undue shock on the dock cleats.

[David M]

There is no hard and fast rule for that, it depends on many factors. If however you tie up your boat prevents damage to your boat, others boats or the dock, then you are doing it correctly.

[Solitude]

When you say tight to the dock what do you mean? You may not want to get fender rash by squeezing the fenders against the hull.

[Badsanta]

I tie mine up loosely then push it side to side and back and forth and check at different tides. If it bumps or come close to the dock or pilings it is too loose and I tighten up a line or two. I dont mind it moving around some, I just dont want it rubbing or touching anything. But all that will change in a storm surge or abnormal tide. I cant believe the people who never check their boat.

[michaelmrc]

the docks at our marina rise and fall with the tides so in my slip i just tie the boat up 2 bow lines 1 stern and 2 spring lines. i pull it in so that the bumpers have a little bit of space between the boat and the dock not jammed right up so that the fenders squeak but not so loose that the boat slams into the dock with the wind.

[barnakiel]

On the floating pontoon, the fore and afts and the springs can be pretty snug if they are long, but the breast lines need more slack. The shorter the lines the more slack they generally need.

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[Solitude]

[MarkJ]

When at a marina (which isnt too often) I walk arround and have a look how everyone else is moored. 1 bow line and 87 stern lines means squalls come through from one diection (you decide which way!); long loose lines means tide etc; extra fenders for wash etc.

The locals may have some tricks up their sleve for just your marina

Of course they may just be ratbags who know nothing

[David M]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

Of course they may just be ratbags who know nothing

Polypro is an indicator.

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by Solitude

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Huh - but most marinas I have bee have fingers shorter than the boat ...

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[thinwater]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

Huh - but most marinas I have bee have fingers shorter than the boat ...

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I have a cat that is a little tight in the slip. I also have tide to deal with. Thus, the center version with springs on both sides works for me. Just leave a long line in place and wrap a round turn, a hitch, and a round turn on it.

If you do not have midship cleats, a bow or stern line can often serve much the same purpose, if run far forward and aft.

Another thing that can help boarding is a small block and tackle to pull the boat to the dock. My wife has arthritis, and so when she boards I can easily pull the boat very tight to the dock. Also Very handy when carrying many items to and fro. But don't leave it tied when the tide moves! Even a large wake can be serious when you are tied tightly, even if the dock floats, because it will not move the same as your boat.

[cal40john]

Originally Posted by Solitude

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I'd say that the names of the lines are reversed.

John

[Solitude]

Originally Posted by cal40john

I'd say that the names of the lines are reversed.

John

I guess that teaches me for taking somthing off the net!