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Old 30-05-2010, 04:31   #16
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We have both a Fortress and an aluminum Spade as secondaries to our Rocna. The Spade assembles/disassembles easier than the Fortress if you are keeping them stowed that way, and it is a bit easier to handle in the dinghy than the Fortress (which, like all Danforth types, can bite your fingers if you don't pay good attention).

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Old 30-05-2010, 05:41   #17
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Rocna in mud

My experience with the Rocna anchor in mud is different than that of THINWATERs.
I was anchored in the San Juaquin Delta (inland of San Francisco Bay) in soft mud when a storm front came through. Two days of 30+ with gusts to 45. Anchored in 10-12 feet of water with a 15kg Rocna and 100 feet of 5/16 ht (about 8-1 scope). Did not move at all that I could tell. When it was time to leave it took about half an hour to break the anchor out (manual windlass). Can't say for sure but my guess is that the anchor had burried itself under 5 feet of mud. When it finally came up it brought about 100 pound mud ball with it.
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There are a few more anecdotes relating to soft mud on the feedback collection page of the Rocna knowledge base:
www.rocna.com/kb/Rocna_feedback
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Old 30-05-2010, 08:20   #19
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Thanks to everyone - I am always amazed at the wealth of experience here, so readily shared. I think the point about managing the secondary in the dinghy is well made, and I 'm going to take a look at a Fortress this afternoon, and also seek out some information on the disassemble-able Rocna.
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My experience with the Rocna anchor in mud is different than that of THINWATERs.
I was anchored in the San Juaquin Delta (inland of San Francisco Bay) in soft mud when a storm front came through. Two days of 30+ with gusts to 45. Anchored in 10-12 feet of water with a 15kg Rocna and 100 feet of 5/16 ht (about 8-1 scope). Did not move at all that I could tell. When it was time to leave it took about half an hour to break the anchor out (manual windlass). Can't say for sure but my guess is that the anchor had burried itself under 5 feet of mud. When it finally came up it brought about 100 pound mud ball with it.
I did not suggest that a 35-pound Rocna would not be good in mud. What I meant was that a 17-pound Fortress would do as well (given limited direction change) and is much simpler to handle in an inflatable. The conditions you described are very typical of the Chesapeake too, so I think I know where you're coming from. It is something to see just how deep good burying anchors go, given time.

Pinching fingers is possible, I suppose; I have handled Danforth pattern anchors for so long, I guess I remember where the teeth are!
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