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11-04-2017, 18:16
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Brisbane Australia
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Quick Windlass question
Anyone ever had to wind the anchor MANUALLY when you have a Quick brand windlass? I have never had to and hope I never have to but would like to know how if needed.
I have all chain but my windlass has not only a chain gypsy but also a rope capstan on top. I also have a separate plastic ring (Top corner of the drawer photo) that has a winch handle star type hole (I assume to attach a winch handle). I'm assuming if I had to manually wind up the anchor I would have to remove the rope capstan, somehow attach this plastic ring (would have to find 3 suitable threaded screws) then using a winch handle wind it up. I assume the orange lock on the side stops it running back as winding.
So first question, are my assumptions correct? How easy is it to wind up manually considering my anchor is 33kg? This plastic ring doesn't seem very strong to be used for this, will it just break when any sort of load is applied?
If this ring is not for this then am I missing a part? I cant think of what else it can be for.
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11-04-2017, 19:30
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Re: Quick Windlass question
This site Quick Nautical Equipment - DOWNLOADS
has the manuals for many Quick winches. The illustration shows a standard winch handle placed above a star shaped hole on the gypsy cover. I reckon you might just have to put the winch in the hole and turn. You might have to switch a lever over. My non quick winch uses a long handle which allows you to turn about a n eigth of a turn at a time. It's verrrrrrry slow.
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11-04-2017, 20:43
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Re: Quick Windlass question
It's the weight of the chain, more than the weight of the anchor that's usually the big item. Also, assuming that your primary winches are in the right place, it's often easier to use them to pull in the anchor. Since quite often, they have better mechanical advantage, along with better ergonomics for heavy duty jobs.
Use a long line, with a chain hook on it's end, led to each winch, port & starboard. Reeling the anchor in, leap frog style with them.
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13-04-2017, 05:38
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Re: Quick Windlass question
not all (in fact only a few) Quick windlasses have a manual recovery-system! on most of them the only option is "chain-hand-over-hand".
which type is your's?
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13-04-2017, 07:08
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Re: Quick Windlass question
I will have to try this black plastic adapter myself.
From the Quick DYLAN DH manual, it looks like you remove the rope drum and bolt the black plastic part onto the chain gypsy and then use a winch handle to raise the anchor without power.
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13-04-2017, 07:22
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Re: Quick Windlass question
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13-05-2017, 13:35
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Re: Quick Windlass question
Dod42. Did you complete the exercise with the plastic insert? How did it work? Thx
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13-05-2017, 13:41
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Re: Quick Windlass question
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emerald Sea
Did you complete the exercise with the plastic insert? How did it work? Thx
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Maybe this will help.
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2372687
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25-05-2017, 14:54
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Re: Quick Windlass question
The other day our Quick Dylan windlass's DC motor failed (3 yrs, 87 cycles, 5800m...another story) and I resorted to manual method by screwing on this plastic insert and then cranking away. The piece of crap plastic insert stripped-out after recovery of only 15m of 60m chain in 16m WD. Fortunately we are in a protected bay but this could have gone pear shaped in another location. If you have a Quick be sure to check the integrity of this insert.
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26-05-2017, 00:30
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Re: Quick Windlass question
...the ideal solution for the serious cruiser would be an electric windlass with full manual function (preferably 2 speed) too. I'm sure it's doable, alas, price would be too high & market too small...
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29-06-2020, 07:10
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Re: Quick Windlass question
Old thread but may still be of value to those with a quick AL3 windlass. I have the version with the drum on top. The owners manual refers to the nylon fitting which you fit after removing the Rope drum. As others have commented on the nylon fitting is not robust. I therefore purchased a replacement gipsy lid for the non drum version of the ALM. This is made of steel and has a winch handle socket. Fitted and works perfectly as a manual solution.
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24-07-2020, 07:52
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Re: Quick Windlass question
Yes, UK Ade, this is of great value. I was just looking to buy the plastic insert (wasn't on the boat when I bought it), but the steel part looks like a much better idea. Where did you buy it? I have not yet found a source in the US but would buy in Europe if needed.
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25-07-2020, 05:47
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Re: Quick Windlass question
The part number for the aluminium manual insert is FVSSRM100000A00. That comes as a
kit with the two screw/bolts; 6mm X 20mm
Spares Marine UK sell them but I’m sure you can source in the US with the part number.
https://www.sparesmarine.co.uk/webshop/windlasses-capstans/all-quick-windlass-and-capstan-spares/windlass-accessories/quick-fvssrm100000a00-osp-recovery-manual-insert-1000w/
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27-07-2020, 08:21
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Re: Quick Windlass question
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05-08-2020, 08:38
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Re: Quick Windlass question
I ordered FVSSRM100000A00 with Quick USA. The part which was shipped is unfortunately the plastic part. I think if you want the aluminum insert as described by UK Ade, you have to order SGMSGB10AL00 ...
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