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27-08-2013, 04:52
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Octopus Verses Rocna.
I see a lot of octopi when looking at anchors. If any of the fluke is exposed it provides an ideal refuge for these creatures. I have even seen them under anchors that were only dropped a few minutes before. I guess in the Octopus world they are prime real estate.
I am afraid I don't have the heart to kill them, despite occasionally eating their brothers and sisters at restaurants. What a woos
Under engine power alone my Rocna normally at least completely buries the fluke which makes my anchor immune. My current anchorage has very hard sand so the anchor has set with the fluke only just covered and some enterprising octopus decided a few of days ago that he could dig out the sand under the fluke and make a nice home.
Each day a bit more sand is dug out from under the anchor and there is steady accumulation of pippi shells that have been eaten and discarded and small stones that are obviously important for the best octopus homes.
The anchor is in 8m (26 feet) of water so pictures from the surface did not show much detail, but a friend has sailed into the anchorage and lent me his Hero 3. Great camera. Must get an underwater camera at some stage.
To give an idea of scale its a 120lb Rocna.
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27-08-2013, 04:54
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This is going to be my favorite anchor thread!
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27-08-2013, 05:17
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
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27-08-2013, 05:24
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
Wow, great shot. Home sweet home.
Much better story than the lobster pot I picked up last week.
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27-08-2013, 05:29
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
Does the Rocna catch more octopi than the Super Sarca? Would it catch more without the hoop? Would a weighted tip catch higher quality octopi? You can catch just as many octopi with a CQR if you learn to use it properly.
You intentionally keep avoiding these pertinent points - are you just a shrill for Rocna?
Mark
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27-08-2013, 05:32
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
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Originally Posted by Cotemar
Wow, great shot. Home sweet home.
Much better story than the lobster pot I picked up last week.
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Rocna frowns on modifying their design - they spent a lot of research on the fluke design and I don't think your modification of their fluke will result in better holding.
On the other hand, it will result in better dinners...
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27-08-2013, 05:52
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
All anchor tests I see are fake. Is that a real octopus?
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27-08-2013, 05:58
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
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Originally Posted by colemj
Does the Rocna catch more octopi than the Super Sarca? Would it catch more without the hoop? Would a weighted tip catch higher quality octopi? You can catch just as many octopi with a CQR if you learn to use it properly.
You intentionally keep avoiding these pertinent points - are you just a shrill for Rocna?
Mark
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I was thinking the same thing...
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Originally Posted by boatsail
All anchor tests I see are fake. Is that a real octopus?
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I missed this one at the boat show sand box too!
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27-08-2013, 06:38
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
Ge Noelex I think you have finally exposed why your rocna holds you so well, this design is more clever than Ithought.
CEOof Anchor Right Australia.
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27-08-2013, 10:08
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
I watched Finding Nemo very carefully and this was never a problem.
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27-08-2013, 10:49
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
Awesome dude!
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27-08-2013, 10:58
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Mate, obviously the octopus is attracted to the quality of "fun" you are having.
You need to tone down the quality of your experience and you will have less problems. my advice is to participate in more anchor, guns and bluewater threads.
...oh wait - you are a mod! Wait....that blows my whole theory!
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28-08-2013, 04:36
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
OK... There has to be more involved with this... external factors besides anchor design and model...
Noelex... Is your HD surround sound subwoofer isolated properly from the hull??? Do you tend to listen to more Marley reggae, Eminem gangsta rap, Sinatra classic???
Or are you a closet Yanni/Michael Bolton fan who cruises to avoid the ridicule of your musical tastes???
Finally... are you very careful about not spilling rum overboard???
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28-08-2013, 13:50
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
I do have rather eclectic musical tastes, but I have not played the Beatles Octopuses Garden recently
He/she has now dug out most of the sand from underneath one entire side of the anchor.
Despite the less than desirable effects on the anchors holding , I cannot help but have great respect for the little guy.
Every time I dive down he comes out from under the anchor to confront me.
He has a couple of live shellfish that he keeps close by for a meal. I might try stealing one tomorrow to show him who is boss
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29-08-2013, 05:28
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Re: Octopus Verses Rocna.
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Originally Posted by noelex 77
I do have rather eclectic musical tastes, but I have not played the Beatles Octopuses Garden recently
He/she has now dug out most of the sand from underneath one entire side of the anchor.
Despite the less than desirable effects on the anchors holding , I cannot help but have great respect for the little guy.
Every time I dive down he comes out from under the anchor to confront me.
He has a couple of live shellfish that he keeps close by for a meal. I might try stealing one tomorrow to show him who is boss
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Awesome tunes suggestion!
I think the power play is an excellent idea... You may be able to convince him that he is dependent on you if you bring a few back!
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