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Old 17-04-2017, 02:23   #91
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Re: My brand new Anchor, Home made,

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Anchoring is a combination of technique and equipment. It seems you need to work on your technique.

I've anchored with a claw anchor hundreds of times and have never had it fail to set and never had it drag.

I'm not going to attempt to tell you how to anchor a boat but Chapman Piloting (the book) explains it pretty well.
Its the first anchor in my life I have never been able to set,
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Old 17-04-2017, 02:37   #92
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You don't go through the Horizontal Waterfalls to get in to Talbot Bay, the falls run off Talbot Bay, the boats you have seen are anchored or beached in Talbot Bay, not inside the falls, never heard of or seen a sailboat go through them in all my years of working and sailing in the Kimberley's....

Most yachties anchor up in Talbot Bay and use these guys to go through the falls, some also use there own dinks when conditions allow.....

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Thanks for the info on Talbot bay, I thought it was inside the falls,

Closest Ive been to the Kimberlys was the road from Kununura to Halls Creek, On my way to Port Headland and Broome, almost fifty years ago,
Took me five days to get there, 3 days sitting on the side of the road beside the Telegraph Transmission station, Blocked radiator, I took the top tank off and resoldered it back on after cleaning it out,
It had a water tank there, so plenty of water for a shower after I blocked the outlet for the night, Wife and two kids loved it, 40-45 plus C every day,
200 miles from the nearest any thing, Kununara to Bromme is approx 700 Miles and it was all dirt back then, Bulldust and Flies, Flies and more flies,
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Old 17-04-2017, 05:59   #93
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... What kind of anchors did slocum use?
Evidently, Slocum’s “Spray” had an “ancient, rust-eaten anchor”.

"... When the talking was finished, two coats of copper paint were slapped on the bottom, two of white lead on the topsides and bulwarks. The rudder was then shipped and painted; and on the following day the Spray was launched. As she rode at her ancient, rust-eaten anchor, she sat on the water like a swan...”
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Evidently, Slocum’s “Spray” had an “ancient, rust-eaten anchor”.

"... When the talking was finished, two coats of copper paint were slapped on the bottom, two of white lead on the topsides and bulwarks. The rudder was then shipped and painted; and on the following day the Spray was launched. As she rode at her ancient, rust-eaten anchor, she sat on the water like a swan...”
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I found this thread fascinating. I started reading it because I have thought of fabricating my own anchor but the real meat of this discussion seem to revolve around qualifications VS experience.

So to summerize being 'book smart' only has value when applied to engineering, a book smart sailer is not a sailer at all. Someone 'experienced' in an engineering field is not an engineer at all.

My two cents after being a toolmaker for 35+ years, the hardest thing for an engineer to do is to think outside the box.

Good job on your anchor Mr. B.
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I was watching some of Panope's anchor tests & noted that after a direction change the Manson Supreme didn't reset about 40% of the time. I'm one of the Dinosaurs that still uses a real CQR and if you listen to the "experts" I should have lost my boat years ago. However, I anchor a lot & once the CQR is set well it has always held well, even after a change in direction which happens pretty much every night here. I dive to the anchor often to check it out & it's clear that, instead of pulling out & then having to reset, it stays set when the direction changes . I think that this is what you want an anchor to do & that's why I have a problem with a slot. It's basically designed to pull the anchor out with a 180 degree wind or tide change & then you have to hope it will reset on it's own, often while you're asleep. For me that's a scary thought.
I too have a CQR and anchor often. The old CQR will hold great in soft bottom... That said, in the very anchorage that Panope has done his testing, the CQR I have has dragged more than it has stayed put. There are places in that bay that are good for me but not close to town. I need MR B's anchor love this thread.
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Old 17-04-2017, 20:10   #96
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I too have a CQR and anchor often. The old CQR will hold great in soft bottom... That said, in the very anchorage that Panope has done his testing, the CQR I have has dragged more than it has stayed put. There are places in that bay that are good for me but not close to town. I need MR B's anchor love this thread.
Mr B's anchor weighs 70 lbs. I'll bet if you try a 70 pound CQR you won't have a problem dragging.
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Thats why its made like it is, Experience comes into it also,
I only make some thing once, The faults are not there to start with,
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Wait a few days till I get it back and test it in the long grass, If it dont set or reset in the long grass, I may have to modify it,
Only a practical test will prove its worth...
What I mean is, its always perfect when I build it, unless its not, and then I have to change it.
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Nice job. I think the only change I may suggest is to extend the slot downwards at the front so that you would have to lift the chain to get it to locate in the long slot.
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Anchoring threads sure are predictable, aren't they?
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Nice job. I think the only change I may suggest is to extend the slot downwards at the front so that you would have to lift the chain to get it to locate in the long slot.


That is an excellent suggestion.
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Re: My brand new Anchor, Home made,

Got it back from the galvanisers,

One of the posts on here showed weighing the point, Which I did,

It has 15 Lbs on the point, All three points level,
But by widening the hoop at the back one inch on both sides it will increase the pressure on the point to about 25 Lbs,
It also increases the pressure on the point when the chain drags the Anchor forwards,
The repair I can cold Gal and paint it with silver paint to protect its surface,

I cant test it here as all the flat parts are compacted crushed rock, The rest is Decomposed granite or solid Granite,
I will take it down to my boat next week, There must be a bit softer ground down there,
You dont park where the substrate is solid rock, I dont any way,
I will keep you posted,
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Well I altered it, Not enough weight on the point, so I added 25 mm, One Inch to widen the hoop at the back,
Now I have 28 Lb on the point, on a 70 Lb anchor,

Now to test it.
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My brand new Anchor, Home made,

Hope it works.

Me, I would have bought a 55 lb mantus - still way overkill for your boat- and saved some weight, spent less than $500, and gained peace of mind on a tested, lifetime warranted, proven design keeping me off the rocks.


MR B- does this mean your gem is finally fixed- I was so sorry to hear of the mess it became with the repairs...
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Hope it works.

Me, I would have bought a 55 lb mantus - still way overkill for your boat- and saved some weight, spent less than $500, and gained peace of mind on a tested, lifetime warranted, proven design keeping me off the rocks.


MR B- does this mean your gem is finally fixed- I was so sorry to hear of the mess it became with the repairs...
I think it is a labor of love, building it. Buying a Mantus wouldn't be half the fun.
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Seems an odd choice, galvanizing it before you were done building it.
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