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05-08-2014, 19:12
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Boat in the Med. home base Vancouver.
Boat: 52' Cheoy Lee Motorsailer
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McMurray Windlass info
I got the info below from boatworkfl (Pat) on the Bayliners Owner forum. It is so helpful I asked (and got permission) to repost it. This could save fellow McMurray windlass owners weeks/months of research! Kudos to Pat for sharing!
Any other useful tidbits please post them. I love my McMurray and it will be great to keep the old girl running for a while yet!
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Winch data
OVERALL DIA. WHEEL 4.27” W1040D
WHEEL GEAR TOOTH DEPTH DIAMETER 3.860”
WHEEL WIDTH .626”
NO. TEETH 40
WORM SHAFT DIA. .613” W1040
Wb1240
e.b. atmus
Part Number, Manufacturer, Description, Price
WF32160, REXNORD, HOUSING WF3-216-0, 32.73
F3U210N, REXNORD, FLANG BLK F3-U210N, 53.27
I spent a lot of time to find all this and I hope it helps my friends on this site, and anyone else that owns this brand of windlass. After disassembling this windlass, I think that it is one of the best of this type. Just do not pull the anchor with the chain gypsy-you may strip the gears.
McMurry Windlass repair info.
Gear parts, bearings, and motor for the McMurry windlass.
The worm gear that fits on the motor shaft is available from Martin Gear in Florida. Any bearing distributor should have access to the gears.
The part number is: WH10
The Wheel gear that fits on the 1” shaft is: w1040D
The bearings 2 for the 1” cross shaft: Link belt number is located on the bearing housing. Rexnord #WF32160
The bearing for the nose of the motor shaft is located on the bearing housing.
Rexnord #F3U210N
The bearings may need to have a small hole drilled in the extended portion of the center support for the shaft bearing to lock the center of the bearing to the shaft.
The motor is a starter from a model 8N ford tractor, new ones are available on EBAY for less than $100.00 delivered.
The starter motor will come with a shaft that is slightly too long and will need to be cut to length and a hole drilled in the proper location to match the existing shaft hole to secure the gear, approx 3/8".
I ordered my gears from Florida Bearings inc. in FT. Lauderdale, FL on line-best price I could find. mailto: ftlsales@floridabearings.com
Note: The ford tractor starters are up only, I believe they can be converted to down also. The old motors can be re-wound though.
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14-09-2014, 13:18
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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re: McMurray Windlass info
Thank you for posting the McMurry windlass info. Here is a bit more.
Up/down motors are available from Western Motor Service, there part number W-8314, phone # 1-800-810-0401. My McMurry is a 12 volt model 2000. The spiral gear on the motor shaft is a Boston Gear GH1066-R, it is attached to the shaft by an 1/8" roller pin.
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04-10-2014, 12:28
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
I recently had the motor from my McMurry Windlass rebuilt by Acme Electric in Seattle (9015 Aurora Ave N). The work seems well done. They seems to have been the original source of the modified Ford motors for McMurry.
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04-10-2014, 12:57
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McMurray Windlass dismantle procedure
McMurry Windlass dismantle procedure.
Remove the capstan. Remove the setscrew.Drive the capstan off using a block of wood and hammer. Remove the drift pin.
Loosen the chain gypsy.
Remove top cover and drain oil.
Using electric power rotate windlass such that the ¼” pin in the upper shaft aligns on an angle so that the pin can be driven out without being driven into the worm gear on the lower shaft. Drive out pin. (If your motor won't work and needs to be rebuilt anyway, remove the bolts, pull the stator frame off and turn the rotor by hand.)
Loosen the set screws (1/8” hex wrench) on upper bearings (2 per side).
Remove the chain stripper.
Remove chain gypsy.
Remove upper shaft while supporting the gear. Remove gear.
Loosen set screws (5/64” hex wrench) on motor shaft end bearing (2).
Loosen but do not remove bolts securing the electric motor.
Work motor from windlass housing without separating the motor. The motor is typically seals to the house with RTV silicon.
Remove bolts and motor.
Reassemble in reverse order.
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12-10-2014, 11:27
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
I have McMurry Windlass literature published by Doc Freeman's. The pdf file is too large to upload, contact me if you want an email of the file.
The documentation indicates;
-Reassembly with new "O" ring 3" x 1/16" and Permatex #2
-140 gear oil filled to top of bottom bolt heads Fwd. Brg.
-Check brushes at least once a year. Replacement brushes Autolite No. SB2.
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18-11-2014, 01:06
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Pender Harbour, BC
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Hi Steve. Thanks for the offer - I'd love to get the McMurry pdf file from you. I'm new to this forum so don't know the mechanics/etiquette of contacting directly. Need my email? phpaget@dccnet.com
Do you know if alternate gypsy sizes were/are available?
Thanks,
Peter
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18-11-2014, 03:42
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Steve, & Peter.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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25-04-2015, 09:32
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sitka, Alaska
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Please send the McMurry manual to warren_family@hotmail.com. Thanks for the great info! I have a brand new one and one on a clients boat in need of repair.
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28-04-2015, 10:00
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sitka, Alaska
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Please send me the McMurry manual at warren_family@hotmail.com Thanks! Steve Warren S/V Windfish
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20-03-2016, 16:14
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiverSteve
I have McMurry Windlass literature published by Doc Freeman's. The pdf file is too large to upload, contact me if you want an email of the file.
The documentation indicates;
-Reassembly with new "O" ring 3" x 1/16" and Permatex #2
-140 gear oil filled to top of bottom bolt heads Fwd. Brg.
-Check brushes at least once a year. Replacement brushes Autolite No. SB2.
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Hello DiverSteve
Have a McMurry windlass and am in the process of servicing it. I will appreciate if you can send me the literature at
genegeorgebear@yahoo.com
Many thanks
Gene
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01-09-2016, 13:35
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Port Angeles, WA
Boat: Ed Monk Sr. 41 ft tri cabin trawler
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Steve, Pls. send the McMurry manual file to Tom Magwire, tjmltd@olypen.com. I had my original motor removed and rebuilt (cracked winding) as well as purchased a spare motor (part MTRW8314). Both motors failed while used this past summer in CND. Gear Oil from the windlass penetrates the motor through the drive shaft. Obviously there is missing seal on the windlass side to prevent oil penetration in the motor. I installed an 1 inch "O" ring and washer on the shaft against the motor without success. Both my original and spare motors experienced oil penetration.
Thanks for your help...I'm sure the manual will have a "blow-up" of all parts on the motor shaft that make up the windlass side...something is missing...wasn't reassembled correctly. My windlass is new purchased in Jan 2005 from Hayner Marine (after Doc Freeman's closed).
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02-09-2016, 03:29
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Sitka, Gene, & Tom.
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Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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05-10-2016, 13:47
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Hello Steve,
I am rebuilding McMurray windlass for 32 foot sail boat, Thank you for your post,I could realy use the manual file if you can send to coconutschris@aol.com. Thank You chris Scott
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09-07-2017, 23:17
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Hi Steve
Would you please send me the McMurry manual if you can. I have an old 32' 1938 launch that I have been restoring for years. Finally made my way to the windlass to find that the gear has a cracked shoulder, and motor is in need of rebuild. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Gene
orloff.gene@gmail.com
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10-07-2017, 04:24
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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Re: McMurray Windlass info
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Chris, & Gene.
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Gord May
"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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