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Old 01-02-2012, 13:52   #1
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Knock Off Anchors

I sail a Beneteau Oceanis 400. Have 150ft of 5/16 ht chain, 150ft of 8 plait 5/8 anchor line. Lewmar Horizon windlass. danforth as a secondary anchor.

I am looking to up grade my CQR 35 lb anchor and want something shiny.

Late week at the Toronto Boat Show I asked if there was only one anchor what would I buy. I recieved an answer " Delta".

My question, is a 45 lb Delta big enough for Geogian Bay and the ICW down to Florida. Are the knock offs ok? Is there a major diference with a shiny SS knock off verus a steel Lewmar, they are about the same price.

Is there another anchor I should look at?

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Re: Knock off anchors

Is the price difference between a knockoff and the real thing worth the risk of your boat to you?

Far as a 45# for a 40' boat, maybe! On my 41' boat I replaced my 35# real Delta with a 60# Manson Surpreme. For the use and peace of mind the extra $150 was nothing in the big picture.
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Re: Knock off anchors

Fletch,

Get a 45# Manson Supreme. Much superior to the Delta.
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Re: Knock off anchors

Here's a rip-off anchor. Would you really want one? Admittedly this is a Bruce not a Delta but......
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Re: Knock off anchors

The Delta is a decent anchor and 45# is OK for your boat and your cruising grounds. Your current rode is also good. You can do better with the Manson Supreme or Spade anchors, but they will cost more.

A 45# delta at Defender costs $300. I would not go anywhere near a stainless knockoff sold at that price. I would get a Chinese Rocna before that.

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Re: Knock off anchors

A 45# Delta came with my boat. Dragged twice the first month. Traded it to a buddy for a good bottle of wine, and after he dragged it he traded it to someone else for an okay bottle of wine.

I replaced the Delta with a Rocna 25kg., and haven't dragged on it once in more than 5 years.
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Re: Knock off anchors

A 45# delta is undersized for your boat. A 55# Rocna is more appropriate. The OP's boat is quite a bit smaller and lighter than yours. I have cruised extensively in the Georgian Bay and East coast US and a 45# delta for his boat in those grounds will be fine.

Definitely an equivalent rocna, supreme or spade would be better, but he would be OK, if not better off than many others he will be anchored next to, with that sized delta.

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Re: Knock off anchors

Don't know the bottom where your talking about, but if its sand or mud, gravel a REAL Danforth will work also, course us old guys do tend to go with what we know!! just a thought Bob and Connie
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Re: Knock off anchors

There are many ways to build a copy anchor. At least one of them is good.

We have a Danforth copy here purchased very cheap and it is an outstanding anchor. We also have a CQR copy which is (beeeep) at the bottom of a deep locker.

Delta has good reputation. I am going to get one for our ship too.

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I would skip SS for an anchor. Get a better and/or heavier anchor in galvanized. Stick to name brands that you know will work. Some knock offs might be fine, but how do you know? I've seen a lot of bent and broken knock offs.
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Had a copy cat 45lb plow once that would not hold in anything over a breeze. If you are going for a plow type get a genuine CQR.___Grant.
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Re: Knock off anchors

If you want an anchor to anchor could only recommend the new generation anchors.

Manson, SARCA, Spade, Rocna.

If only to be bright and shiney what ever is cheap and looks good.
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I wouldn't screw with a cheap anchor. Save money on teak widgets in the galley or sell the outboard and use oars. I've got a boat smaller than yours and I rock a 60lb manson supreme. Looks crazy up there on the bowsprit.

Additionally, it's big enough that you could hide behind it in a gun fight.
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Re: Knock off anchors

Apparently some picks were made of the wrong steel grade. I think it is fixed now though. I have a 60 pounds Manson on my little trimaran, as well as a thirty pounds Manson.

--I agree. Go for the Manson Supreme,
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Re: Knock off anchors

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Here's a rip-off anchor. Would you really want one? Admittedly this is a Bruce not a Delta but......

It is NOT a real Bruce though--just a crap copy. Bruce small anchors are not made anymore--and those around still are in demand.
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