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Old 14-01-2018, 12:50   #31
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Re: Ideal windlass issue

I think the stench is from it being a very high sulphur content oil?
You definitely had water in it, once you get it fixed, you need to flush it a couple of times until the oil comes out clean, and then drain every now and again to see if itís gets more water in it.
Iíd suspect a bad seal letting in water, but water will of course ruin the internals.
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Ideal windlass issue

An update for those interested
I have the motor off and apart, the gearbox is not moving from its position, so that might just have to stay there. I will give it another go this weekend, but it looks stuck.

Iíve still not found any reason for the winch to fail as yet, the oil seal had failed and it was full of the gearbox oil, but I donít think this was the issue.


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This is the commutator after I shaved it down on a lathe
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This is the worm drive, I canít tell if it needs to be replaced or not
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This is where the oil seal goes, there are two tiny grooves in the shaft, not sure if these will affect the seal or not
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What model is it. I have some parts left over from my rebuild. I bought 3 of the deck mount horizontal ones with rope or chain on either side. I can get some photos if needed
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Yes that gear is really worn. You can get new shaft seals at an auto parts store. What shape is the big gear in.
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Re: Ideal windlass issue

I'm with badsanta, the worm gear looks pretty worn (the shiny bits) and the sound the windlass made did sound like gear stripping.

I suspect that both gears are worn over their service limit. good news is both gears are available, though spendy. You have to loosen three set screws to remove the big gear in the gear box, then the shaft is pulled and the big gear pops out.

The nice thing about the ideal windlass is it's rebuildable. I made a new friction disk out of 1/4" wood. Far cheaper then the $68 fiction disk from ideal.

There isn't a water seal on the main shaft. so over time water and seep into the gear box, between the deck shaft and outer support. Best to change out the gear oil every few years.
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I got the gearbox out! Only took two weeks
Used a lot of heat, then I was able to slowly move the deck plate, more heat and wd 40 and a big tube with a sledge hammer on the other end, and pop, out it came!Click image for larger version

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Shaft has a slight bend, and the gear inside is stripped
Will post that pic when I get it out
Motor is rebuild and running fine, but I do have a new one on the way as it was a great deal from paintedsky, and a new worm drive too.
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Yes that gear is really worn. You can get new shaft seals at an auto parts store. What shape is the big gear in.


It has had it
Will post a pic soon
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Here are the files that Schaefer sent me
Thanks for those, handy to have just in case.

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New motor with worm drive
And a new main gear
Just have to get it all back together again
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