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10-10-2016, 01:34
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: St Francis Bay South Africa
Boat: Catamarans
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Confined space for anchor chain
The space in which 80 meters of chain has to fall out the windlass is to small in depth. There is length in the chain box but to get the chain spread over the area is problematic and I am trying to find out if a chain flaking equipment exist. Jan W D Gulcher
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10-10-2016, 01:45
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: forest city
Boat: no boat any more
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
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10-10-2016, 02:11
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Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
I have never sailed any cruising boat which didn't require flaking the chain. Do it with your foot, or with a long stick.
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10-10-2016, 05:14
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Senior Cruiser
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Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Jan.
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10-10-2016, 05:49
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
Depends on the boat I guess, my chain locker is the whole bow of the boat is V shaped and is maybe 6' deep, I can't imagine what it would take to pile it to the top.
Maybe go with G70 chain as that may make it so you can put more chain in less space?
What kind and size of chain do you currently have?
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10-10-2016, 06:00
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Toronto area when not travelling
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dockhead
I have never sailed any cruising boat which didn't require flaking the chain. Do it with your foot, or with a long stick.
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Our chain self stows. Originally the chain was stored in the very bow compartment and it would castle and would need to be pushed over with a boat hook. We mounted a new windlass about four feet aft so that the chain goes into a different compartment with about a three plus foot drop (when empty). It holds 200 feet of chain without a problem.
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10-10-2016, 08:35
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Location: Pacific NW.
Boat: KP 46
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
a traffic cone, placed directly under the chain fall works to keep the chain from piling up.
Michael
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10-10-2016, 09:05
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Helsinki (Summer); Cruising the Baltic Sea this year!
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
Quote:
Originally Posted by AiniA
Our chain self stows. Originally the chain was stored in the very bow compartment and it would castle and would need to be pushed over with a boat hook. We mounted a new windlass about four feet aft so that the chain goes into a different compartment with about a three plus foot drop (when empty). It holds 200 feet of chain without a problem.
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A rare luxury. Congratulations!
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I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
Dash me with amorous wet . . . . I can repay you."
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10-10-2016, 11:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: the Med
Boat: Nauta 54' by Scott Kaufman/S&S - 1989
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
240' of 10mm chain.
If i take out 2/3 of it, last 30' are a problem to have fall in, although my stow is provided with an important inclination playe to stern, to help chain fall back.
As such, i have to rake it backward manually, quite often so. Not easy, really!
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10-10-2016, 11:35
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
10 mm, G40 or BBB?
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10-10-2016, 11:45
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
Yes, shallow locker depth is an issue. The chain piles up and jams. I know of no flaking device....
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10-10-2016, 12:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central California
Boat: Samson C Mist 32
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
I am inventing a chain flaking device. I've thought about the problem quite a bit. My idea is to install a ramp or chute below deck. The chute slopes down toward the stern, at a steep enough angle to allow the chain to slide down, falling into a deeper and wider part of the chain locker. The upper end of the chute is fastened to the overhead with a pivot, so the chain can be made to fall on one side for a while, then the other side. The port-to- starboard movement of the chute is controlled by pulling on one or the other of two cords or cables led up above deck. The design must not permit any possibility of fouling interfering with veering out chain. I will reveal no more details until I have the patent... I welcome any suggestion or criticism. Well, almost any.
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10-10-2016, 12:24
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Marine Service Provider
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Location: Victoria B.C.
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
Lofrans makes one.
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10-10-2016, 12:46
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
Nothing new about a chute or pipe to take chain further aft. A good steep angle is required for it to work well, cutting the boat etc is also needed. Not an option a lot of people want to do. Inhibiting a V berth is required for those boats with a V. Bottom line is if that space is available the forward bulkhead or windlass could've been located so no chute required. Just my thoughts.
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10-10-2016, 13:42
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cap Sante Marina Anacortes, WA
Boat: Kettenburg 1977 32 ft.
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Re: Confined space for anchor chain
Not easy in a shallow locker for the chain. As a single hander I have to go forward to the winch, drop to my knees, operate winch with my left knee while flaking the chain by hand as it is drawn up. Yes, I know I should not let the winch draw the boat to the anchor so I start the boat that way then dash forward and take up the slack. Sometimes back and forth. I can't think of a flaking mechanism working in a shallow locker. Be careful as the winch will grab your sleeve, neck chain, hair etc. and makes no compromise for carelessness. get help if you need it and good luck.
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