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SundayMorning · 22-10-2018, 18:05

bliss: "Since you are a cat- owner, I assume you use a bridle snubber connected to the inside of the hulls quite close to the water line. This arrangement gives you a much better scope than us mono- owners who in addition to water depth, have to add the distance from the bow roller to water level"

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but is there a reason that monos don't do the same? They use a snubber anyway. It could be permanently attached to a fitting at the bow near the water level and the hook end carried onboard when underway. When anchoring just attach the hook (or soft shackle) to the chain as it goes out, just like a bridle on a cat. Deploy enough chain to make the snubber take the load, like usual, just with the entire snubber now overboard.

If a center-bow fitting is not good for the fiberglass joint, fittings on each side could be attached to a mini-bridle. I've never seen it done on a mono, but it would allow shorter chain with the same scope as bliss mentioned.

Simi 60 · 22-10-2018, 18:25

PWB is possibly the most widely used aust. made chain
Serrafinni also do chain but never met anyone using it yet.

billknny · 22-10-2018, 18:26

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Originally Posted by Dave_S

They say high tensile stainless steel for anchor chain.

Then whoever "THEY" are, "THEY" are not people you should be listening to. There is no such thing as "high tensile" stainless.

There are lots of good reasons that stainless makes terrible chain for load critical applications in corrosive environments.

Simi 60 · 22-10-2018, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Ecos

If you can get Maggi down under, go for that. It is noticeably a better chain.

Compared to what?
Have you tested them all?

The chain the op gets will be pretty much dictated by availability and chain wheel.

Paul L · 22-10-2018, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

Compared to what?
Have you tested them all?

The chain the op gets will be pretty much dictated by availability and chain wheel.

Compared to Acco the Maggi chain galvanizing has been superior for us.

Simi 60 · 22-10-2018, 18:49

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Originally Posted by Paul L

Compared to Acco the Maggi chain galvanizing has been superior for us.

My point being is that most of the world gets neither.
Most get what fits the chain wheel and what is available locally due to insane 1 off freight and import costs of self importing 1/2 tonne of chain
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Paul L · 22-10-2018, 19:02

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

My point being is that most of the world gets neither.
Most get what fits the chain wheel and what is available locally due to insane 1 off freight and import costs of self importing 1/2 tonne of chain

Yea, you really don't have anything to pick from other than what's available locally. That doesn't increase(or decrease) the quality of your few choices. Maggi is made in Italy and easily available in NZ. Don't know how much hassle it would be to ship from NZ to Aust.
Maggi is also imported to the US, but Peerles, Acco chain is much more common. Most anywhere you can get Chinese chain, it's just not my cup of tea

Simi 60 · 22-10-2018, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Paul L

Yea, you really don't have anything to pick from other than what's available locally. That doesn't increase(or decrease) the quality of your few choices. Maggi is made in Italy and easily available in NZ. Don't know how much hassle it would be to ship from NZ to Aust.

Looking at the NZ website its almost 2x what Australian made PWB cost delivered to the boat.
Add in freight and it'll be closer to 4 or more times more expensive.
Then, it most likely won't even fit the chain wheel.

model 10 · 22-10-2018, 19:23

From the looks of Maggi chain they use Class 3 Galvanizing.

Paul L · 22-10-2018, 19:29

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

Looking at the NZ website its almost 2x what Australian made PWB cost delivered to the boat.
Add in freight and it'll be closer to 4 or more times more expensive.
Then, it most likely won't even fit the chain wheel.

Clearly too expensive.
Can't see why you think the chain won't fit your gypsy. Does Australia not use standard chain sizes for gypsies? There are Euro and US standards.

kmacdonald · 22-10-2018, 19:30

50 meters of 8mm G70. Keep the wight down.

Simi 60 · 22-10-2018, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Paul L

Clearly too expensive.
Can't see why you think the chain won't fit your gypsy. Does Australia not use standard chain sizes for gypsies? There are Euro and US standards.

As we are neither US or Europe we use Australian standards.
Grade L is the most common chain size here.

Paul L · 22-10-2018, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Simi 60

As we are neither US or Europe we use Australian standards.
Grade L is the most common chain size here.

Had to look it up. Is it all G30 or can you get the same size in G40?

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6mm Grade 'L' - G30 Calibrated Windlass Chain
Grade L is a low carbon steel chain specifically manufactured to Australian Standard AS2321-2006.
Used for anchoring and mooring applications, Grade L calibrated short-link design ensures proper fit for most Australian windlasses.
Finish: Hot Dip Galvanized