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Old 28-02-2009, 18:26   #46
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Grapnel Anchors

Can someone recommend a good grapnel for a 34' boat, and a source where I can get one?

Looked on West Marine and Defender, and all they have are the folding kind and only for smaller boats.

FYI - I looking to get one strictly for hooking into wrecks for diving.
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Old 28-02-2009, 19:24   #47
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The Paul E Luke is a fantastic anchor because you can have one three times the specified weight for your boat stowed in the bilge for emergency use,
But I would prefer to have one "nex gen" anchor which has six time (or more) the holding of a "Luke", stowed easily in the bilge.




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The Bruce got bent in a collision with a coaster in China, back in the UK I returned the Bruce for repair, they straightened it and regalvanised it free of charge, what service
What a BAD service, any piece of metal bent and straightened, is much more fragile. I will never straighten one of my anchors, for SAFETY reasons, it is that I call a GOOD service

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Old 28-02-2009, 21:26   #48
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"What a BAD service, any piece of metal bent and straightened, is much more fragile. I will never straighten one of my anchors, for SAFETY reasons, it is that I call a GOOD service"

That is a blanket statement if I ever heard one. If it had a slight bend, it will not take away from it's inherent strength. I would be more concerned about that little pin in your picture of that "nex gen" anchor that holds the two parts together. I wouldn't want my boat to depend on that.
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My thoughts exactly about that weenie pin.
I'll trust my one piece Bruce, thank you.

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Or the Luke anchor. Can you imagine trusting that new fangled thing to a 60 kn wind?
No thanks.
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That is a blanket statement if I ever heard one. If it had a slight bend, it will not take away from its inherent strength
Well, you are not obliged to follow my suggestions, I don’t care! it is not my boat which is attached to this anchor!.. .

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I would be more concerned about that little pin in your picture of that "next gen" anchor that holds the two parts together.

Regarding this « little pin » don’t worry : IT DOESN’T HOLDS THE TWO PARTS TOGETHER – the shank is inserted from below the blade and has a trapezoidal end (similar to the one of the Luke)– Inserted that way, the shank will wedge itself into the blade and couldn’t move – The « little pin » is only an additional security !..

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senormechanico: I'll trust my one piece Bruce
This anchor is also available as an « one piece » anchor

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bobfnbw: Can you imagine trusting that new fangled thing to a 60 kn wind?
This anchor has been developped for areas, such as Patagonia chanels and Tierra de Fuego where winds stronger than 60 knots are very common !..

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Ancora Latina, are there any independent tests done with the Raya anchor?
On your home page the headings "Tests ","Testimonials" and "Press review " are all empty !!??
As you have very strong claims for the performance of the Raya anchor, it would be nice with some hard facts.

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Tests!..

Ahhhh tests !!!, if you don’t have them you can’t sell your products

– If you are « First » on a test– everybody say that tests are not a good reference.. They are NEVER Scientifics and it is always possible to deeply criticize them...

We should be tested soon (I hope) by two of the most important sailing magazines in the States
– this month in New Zealand and in Brazil too...

I will keep you informed....

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I wish all of Fisherman anchor’s users to never have to face such bad weather conditions...
Whilst I like the look of your anchor, I have to draw issue with you over the above statement. If I was anchoring in a rocky bottom, the fisherman is undoubtedly a better option - if only because you will not mind so much if you have to cut it away!

Is Gmac involved in your tests?

I look forward to the results and hope that you will link us to the published report.
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This is sounding more and more like the Rocna anchor thread where opinions become as inflexible as the anchor itself. Shouldn't these claims be posted in "vendor" or "product evacuation" threads?
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Ahhhh tests !!!, if you don’t have them you can’t sell your products

– If you are « First » on a test– everybody say that tests are not a good reference.. They are NEVER Scientifics and it is always possible to deeply criticize them...

We should be tested soon (I hope) by two of the most important sailing magazines in the States
– this month in New Zealand and in Brazil too...

I will keep you informed....

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Keep in mind that test will be much more believable done by an independent source. Self made claims are always a little cloudy.
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If I was anchoring in a rocky bottom, the fisherman is undoubtedly a better option
Hi Talbot,

This is again a classical « Perceived wisdom ». Do you have any proof of that ? results of comparative tests??

In Rocks, either nothing works (flat rocks) or any lump of metal wedged between two solid rocks will have a tremendous holding... very often, it is only the chain wrapped around big boulders which gives you the holding...

I will be very interested to make a comparative study, weight for weight, between a Fisherman anchor and the RAYA in rocks... I’m ready to bet which will be the winner!

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I would be very in terested in seeing a test between the raya and the FISHERMAN,CQR,BRUCE and the nex gen anchors...he he he
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