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Old 12-01-2014, 21:35   #16
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Re: Yamaha Enduro Outboard

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AFAIK, the Enduro design and parts have not changed in many decades. That is kind of the whole point of themů

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> they still had magneto type ignition systems rather than Capacitive Discharge
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> Does the modern generation of Enduros still have that drawback?

Nope, they are CDI.
OK, guys, who is correct here?

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Re: Yamaha Enduro Outboard

>OK, guys, who is correct here?

I just happened to grab the manual last week, because we have one on the Sabre 22 we use as a training boat at the RPYC.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/s...rrent_1793.pdf

Page 12: Specifications and Requirements:
Engine:
Type:
2 Stroke L
Displacement:
246.0cm3
Bore x Stroke:
56.0 x 50.0 mm( 2.20 c 1.97 in)
Ignition System:
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Old 12-01-2014, 23:36   #18
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Re: Yamaha Enduro Outboard

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>OK, guys, who is correct here?

I just happened to grab the manual last week, because we have one on the Sabre 22 we use as a training boat at the RPYC.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/s...rrent_1793.pdf

Page 12: Specifications and Requirements:
Engine:
Type:
2 Stroke L
Displacement:
246.0cm3
Bore x Stroke:
56.0 x 50.0 mm( 2.20 c 1.97 in)
Ignition System:
CDI
Stu, I find that pretty convincing (assuming,of course, that the quote is from an Enduro manual (just joking...)).

It makes sense to me, since I had found in my limited exposure to the Enduros in Fiji that the ignition system was a weak link. The idea of the Enduro was, I believe, not to perpetuate old technology but to provide a reliable motor for third world markets. The CDI units have excellent reliability in my experience. In fact, I think they were the pivotal development in making reliable 2-stroke engines. When I got my first one I could not believe how the spark plug life increased!

Anyhow, thanks to those who tried to answer my query.

Cheers,

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Old 13-01-2014, 00:22   #19
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Re: Yamaha Enduro Outboard

I was double checking to confirm and Google gave me an earlier thread about problems with the CDI on a 15HP Yamaha Enduro:

15hp Yamaha Enduro - Ignition Issues

"I've just picked up a 2002 15hp Yamaha Enduro for a smidgen more than a song, but the catch is that it doesn't start! The PO put a brand new ($230!) carb on thinking the issue to be there, but the issue remains. He took it to a mechanic who tested around and claims to have determined the CDI is bad; the problem the guy had was he couldn't source parts here in south Florida. I have found a source for the CDI, but as it's $140, "

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"A friend who has worked in a Yamaha dealership for a long while explained that there is little difference in the engine components between my 2002 Enduro and any other Yamaha 2-stroke from about 1984-today. He said they've changed some surface things, but that the CDI on my motor is the same one that has been used for twenty years."

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Re: Yamaha Enduro Outboard

I didn't mean to imply that Enduros used magnetos, I was simply saying that their design and parts have not changed for many years - so whatever was being used in Fiji was probably the same as today.

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Given the choice then of 8hp 2 stroke Enduro or similar Mercury what will it be team...I'm ordering in the morning. Happy discussions I'm hitting the hay...
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