Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 04-01-2014, 22:04   #16
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,468
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by s/v Thea View Post
Screw is

1/4-20 X 1" Socket HD. Screw - L.H. Thread
Part Number: 06-75-3150

Doug
Doug, Thank You very much for that... the LH thread may be a bit of a challenge here in Tassie, but I will give it a try... or perhaps find a distributor who can mail me some to a Poste Restante address. Some will not...


Cheers,

Jim
__________________

__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2014, 08:15   #17
Senior Cruiser
 
mikereed100's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Santa Barbara
Boat: 46' custom cat
Posts: 1,573
Images: 2
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Jim,
I just brought the screw to a local tool supply store and they had a drawer-full of them. Buena Tool in Santa Barbara. If you can't find them in Tassie or online, I'd be happy to pick some up and send them along.
Mike
__________________

__________________
Mike

www.sailblogs.com/member/rumdoxy

Come to the dark side. We have cookies.
mikereed100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2014, 11:49   #18
Registered User
 
Nicholson58's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
Posts: 3,466
Images: 83
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by s/v Thea View Post
Screw is

1/4-20 X 1" Socket HD. Screw - L.H. Thread
Part Number: 06-75-3150

Doug


McMaster-Carr

Here it is. Use grade 8 steel, 170,000 psi

Inch screws have a Class 3A thread fit.

Black-Oxide Alloy Steel—Screws are made from alloy steel that’s stronger than Grade 8 steel. They have been heat treated for hardness, which results in a dark surface color. They have a minimum Rockwell hardness of C37 and a minimum tensile strength of 170,000 psi. Inch sizes meet ASTM A574.

18-8 Stainless Steel—These screws provide corrosion resistance. They have a minimum Rockwell hardness of B70 and a minimum tensile strength of 70,000 psi.

For technical drawings and 3-D models, click on a part number.For technical drawings and 3-D models, click on a part number.
Lg. Thread
Lg. Each
Black-Oxide Alloy Steel
1/4"-20
1" Full 91670A542 $9.86
__________________
Nicholson58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2014, 13:12   #19
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,468
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Again, thanks to all who have supplied this useful data. Next time we're in Hobart we will have a go at it. If that fails,it's off to some mail order type supplier.

And Mike, thanks for that kind offer. Hopefully there will be a closer source!

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2014, 13:44   #20
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SW Florida
Boat: FP Belize, 43' - Dot Dun
Posts: 3,432
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicholson58 View Post
Inner tube is a good idea. If you find one the right size it might even be a stretch over the vents. The usual short bursts of use shouldn't over heat it.

I looked at the Super Cranker adapter that replaces the chuck. I sort-of like it but I'm concerned that the set screw would damage the threads on the chuck mount. As a machine builder, I think that if the threaded end was a tiny bit larger with a saw split, the set screw would be replaced with one or two proper screws and used to clamp around the threaded stud. The screw does not touch the stud. Alternatively, we sometimes use a two-piece clamp collar. In either case, the threaded housing around the stud is clampted tightly over the stud so no movement happens. Release of the clamp makes manual removal easy. I might make one of these.
Drop a small piece of lead between the set screw and the threads. The lead will protect the threads on drill.
__________________
DotDun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2014, 13:53   #21
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,413
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

I love my Millie but only use her to winch up the main on a winch under the dodger... essentially not exposing her to rain and spray. I suspect using her in the primaries to trim up wind in heavy conditions would take its toll on the her in short order. I don't do it and trim old style. Millie spends her life down below under the nav seat when she's not raising the main.
__________________
Sandero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2014, 20:25   #22
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,468
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

G'Day all,

So, Ann got busy and whipped out a cover for the drill. Made from some scrap Sunbrella and a bit of Velcro.

Haven't tried it in anger yet, but I think it will help a lot.

Cheers,

Jim
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN0430_01.jpg
Views:	99
Size:	417.2 KB
ID:	73375  
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2014, 03:17   #23
Certifiable Refitter/Senior Wannbe
 
Wotname's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: Van DeStat Super Dogger 31'
Posts: 7,334
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate View Post
Again, thanks to all who have supplied this useful data. Next time we're in Hobart we will have a go at it. If that fails,it's off to some mail order type supplier.

And Mike, thanks for that kind offer. Hopefully there will be a closer source!

Jim
Jim, there is a pretty good fastener outlet in Kingston which I go past fairly often so if you like, I could call in and see if they have (or can get) what you need. Its actually the tool hire shop (beside the mower shop) but they stock a reasonable range of fasteners.

Alternatively I could find the phone number for you as I have their details somewhere but don't their business name

Just let me know exactly which screw/bolt you need.
__________________
All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence
Wotname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2014, 16:17   #24
Senior Cruiser
 
tartansail's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Tiverton, RI, USA
Boat: ex-Tartan 40
Posts: 614
Images: 1
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate View Post
G'Day all,

So, Ann got busy and whipped out a cover for the drill. Made from some scrap Sunbrella and a bit of Velcro.

Haven't tried it in anger yet, but I think it will help a lot.

Cheers,

Jim
Very nice. That was quick work! I look forward to hearing how it works for you.
__________________
- David
S/V Sapphire Tartan 40 #71

tartansail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2014, 02:35   #25
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,468
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikereed100 View Post
We use our in reverse. I managed to break the retaining screw once (we carry lots of spares) but when I put the chuck back on I used Locktite which seems to have solved the problem.
Well, I now have broken my first screw... just like some of you said using it in reverse would do. I'm tracking down some replacements locally and will see if they show up.

Meanwhile, I'd like to know what grade of Loctite you used? And have you tried to remove the chuck since then? I don't anticipate wanting to do so, but ya never know! But the Loctite should indeed help keep the load off the securing screw, and I would prefer to be able to use the drill in reverse. My main use is in furling a big genoa (every time we tack it) and it is a high speed/low load application which begs for using "high" gear on either the primary or secondary winches... ie, reverse on the drill!

Other than the breakage of the bolt I am pleased with the way the drill handles the jobs I've tasked it with.

Cheers,

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2014, 07:43   #26
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pender Harbour, BC
Boat: Stevens 47
Posts: 95
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Jim,

I used blue loctite without any screw after breaking mine, lasted the rest of summer until I obtained new screws. I still used reverse but carefully. Didn't have any trouble removing chuck with wrench afterwards to extract end of broken screw. When I reassembled with new screw I again used blue loctite and made sure chuck was good and tight. No problems since then.

Doug
__________________
s/v Thea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2014, 07:46   #27
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,413
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Cate View Post
G'Day all,

So, Ann got busy and whipped out a cover for the drill. Made from some scrap Sunbrella and a bit of Velcro.

Haven't tried it in anger yet, but I think it will help a lot.

Cheers,

Jim
very cute... this is not going to do boo in a nice heavy rain.
__________________
Sandero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2014, 10:29   #28
Senior Cruiser
 
tartansail's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Tiverton, RI, USA
Boat: ex-Tartan 40
Posts: 614
Images: 1
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

If you find that you're having to trade off frequently breaking screws or forgo reverse, take a look at the "Super Cranker". By replacing the whole chuck, it creates a very solid connection with no issues in reverse. (No connection with the company, but a happy customer).
__________________
- David
S/V Sapphire Tartan 40 #71

tartansail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2014, 15:19   #29
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,468
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandero View Post
very cute... this is not going to do boo in a nice heavy rain.
No, and it won't keep it dry if I drop it overboard, either. I think it will help mitigate the effects of a sudden bit of spray on an otherwise dry day. Remember, I don't HAVE to use this thing if it is raining... have managed without it for the past 11 years and 45000 miles.

Jim
__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2014, 15:23   #30
Senior Cruiser
 
Jim Cate's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: cruising SW Pacific
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
Posts: 11,468
Re: weather protection for Milwaukee drill wincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by s/v Thea View Post
Jim,

I used blue loctite without any screw after breaking mine, lasted the rest of summer until I obtained new screws. I still used reverse but carefully. Didn't have any trouble removing chuck with wrench afterwards to extract end of broken screw. When I reassembled with new screw I again used blue loctite and made sure chuck was good and tight. No problems since then.

Doug
Thanks for that. I determined yesterday (thanks, Wotname!)that no fastener vendor in Oz has LH cap screws, so will try to source from Milwaukee. One can use the chuck in forward with no screw installed, and that will work ok for now.

Cheers,

Jim
__________________

__________________
Jim and Ann s/v Insatiable II , lying Port Cygnet, Tasmania once again
Jim Cate is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
rot, weather, winch

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 19:11.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.