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Old 16-07-2011, 15:08   #196
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Re: USCG Considers Mandatory PFD Use

insurance willnever be cost effective as is money fornothing most of the time and we get nothing back
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Old 16-07-2011, 20:24   #197
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Someone in the US CDC has suggested that children of obese parents be removed and placed in foster care. The camel has more than a nose under the tent....

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Neither researcher was from CDC. They are from Harvard.

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Should parents of extremely obese children lose custody for not controlling their kids' weight? A provocative commentary in one of the nation's most distinguished medical journals argues yes, and its authors are joining a quiet chorus of advocates who say the government should be allowed to intervene in extreme cases.

It has happened a few times in the U.S., and the opinion piece in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association says putting children temporarily in foster care is in some cases more ethical than obesity surgery.

Dr. David Ludwig, an obesity specialist at Harvard-affiliated Children's Hospital Boston, said the point isn't to blame parents, but rather to act in children's best interest and get them help that for whatever reason their parents can't provide.

State intervention "ideally will support not just the child but the whole family, with the goal of reuniting child and family as soon as possible. That may require instruction on parenting," said Ludwig, who wrote the article with Lindsey Murtagh, a lawyer and a researcher at Harvard's School of Public Health.
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Old 16-07-2011, 20:35   #198
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oh boy--lets have more big brother.....
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Did you see the folks that were sent to rescue this guy?..they looked to me that they couldnt save themselves much less someone else.I belive they said they couldnt swim well themselves..go figure.I agree we could do without more laws but to say smaller gov. is good just means less accountability for the few that remain.just remember the USA is the greatest country the world has ever known and that is NOT subject to change.there are other great countries also but just because were living in tough times doesnt mean you should bad mouth the good old US of A.
You guys have an awful lot of oversight in the US anyway. It's a triumph of the American system that it has convinced it's people that they are free when it's closer to a police state then many nations


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Wrong

Neither researcher was from CDC. They are from Harvard.
You are right I was wrong about the institution the doctor belongs to. However my point was not who said it but what was said.

I think you can see where the CDC association came in.

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"According to a 2009 study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), roughly two out of three children are likely to grow up to be obese adults. This statistic, among many others, has proven that childhood obesity is a serious problem in the U.S. But what should be done to solve this epidemic? Dr. David Ludwig, an obesity specialist at Harvard-affiliated Children's Hospital Boston, proposes a solution in his July 13th, 2011 opinion piece in the Journal of the American Medical Association. The report advocates for severely obese children to be be taken from their parents and placed in foster homes to get them the proper care they need. But is this best way to end obesity? iMag went to pediatrician, Dr. Peter Inguagiato, Senior Partner at MD's for Kids and Andrew Malekoff, the executive director for the North Shore Child and Family Guidance Center in Roslyn Heights, N.Y., for their reactions."

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oh boy--lets have more big brother.....
I think you mean "Obese brother"
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That's funny....I will have to remember that for my political forums.
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You guys have an awful lot of oversight in the US anyway. It's a triumph of the American system that it has convinced it's people that they are free when it's closer to a police state then many nations


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You are right I was wrong about the institution the doctor belongs to. However my point was not who said it but what was said.

I think you can see where the CDC association came in.

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"According to a 2009 study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), roughly two out of three children are likely to grow up to be obese adults. This statistic, among many others, has proven that childhood obesity is a serious problem in the U.S. But what should be done to solve this epidemic? Dr. David Ludwig, an obesity specialist at Harvard-affiliated Children's Hospital Boston, proposes a solution in his July 13th, 2011 opinion piece in the Journal of the American Medical Association. The report advocates for severely obese children to be be taken from their parents and placed in foster homes to get them the proper care they need. But is this best way to end obesity? iMag went to pediatrician, Dr. Peter Inguagiato, Senior Partner at MD's for Kids and Andrew Malekoff, the executive director for the North Shore Child and Family Guidance Center in Roslyn Heights, N.Y., for their reactions."
WHAT should be DONE?STOP FEEDING THEM SO DAMN MUCH!
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Old 17-07-2011, 10:02   #205
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rofl--make em row the dink instead of motor the damthing..LOL.. seen fat kids cruising--- they do NOT row or paddle-- they motor and use puter a lot. no physical exercise.
darwin selection-- there are no pfds for FAT
didja know that?????
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