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Old 05-08-2016, 18:55   #1
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Tidal areas-Drying out

Methods of keeping boat upright at a drying mooring:

1. Drying legs

2. Portable wooden crib https://www.dropbox.com/s/qgfwbo44hk1dtp9/Crib.pdf?dl=0
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Re: Tidal areas-Drying out

The keel on our big boat is 23" wide and long. I sometimes wonder if she would just stand on her own. She has fittings for legs, but no legs. I think they would be a pain to store.
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Re: Tidal areas-Drying out

After running aground on a muddy bottom, kept my center board boat upright by using halyards and anchors to either side. We stayed aboard and slept waiting for the tide to come back in to float the high and dry boat.
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Re: Tidal areas-Drying out

Our choice for careening on a shore is to select a steep sandy beach that doesn't keep us upright, but with a less than severe lean. With the tide running out as we rest on the bank, we're able to form a very supportive form. Here's an older photo of our favorite careening location:


33' Morgan photo from 1975

We carefully survey our planned site to make sure there are no rocks or debris where we plan to settle. We also take a line from the masthead to an anchor well ashore to make sure that our initial lean is to shore and not risking a fall in the "wrong" direction, but that would be very unlikely.
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Re: Tidal areas-Drying out

I've been thinking more about the possibility of building a beaching leg. Hudson and roverhi offer good ideas. I wonder if the modern anchors like Mantus, Spade and Fortress (the three I'll have aboard) have sufficient holding strength to keep the vessel upright reliably. I read James Baldwin's (Atom Voyages) account of his failed attempt at using anchors for this purpose, but I believe the older style anchors he was using may have been to blame.

One could also use two or even three anchors on one side, scoped to allow a very slight tilt (same as with a single beaching leg)

A steeply embanked beach is something I hadn't thought of, but makes total sense. Maybe the expense (monetary, effort to fit and store) of a drying leg is not worth the rare occasions for need.
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Methods of keeping boat upright at a drying mooring:

1. Drying legs

2. Portable wooden crib https://www.dropbox.com/s/qgfwbo44hk1dtp9/Crib.pdf?dl=0
pic of crib in use https://www.dropbox.com/s/qrp65msqg2...Crib1.jpg?dl=0

additional drying info http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread...legs-simple-or
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Re: Tidal areas-Drying out

Falling off the standing position on the keel to the hard bank can cause huge damage, injury or worse. I can see the advantage of leaning slightly to a strong wall or tied to strong pilings, but I would not risk a balance depending upon anchors.
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Our choice for careening on a shore is to select a steep sandy beach that doesn't keep us upright, but with a less than severe lean. With the tide running out as we rest on the bank, we're able to form a very supportive form. Here's an older photo of our favorite careening location:


33' Morgan photo from 1975

We carefully survey our planned site to make sure there are no rocks or debris where we plan to settle. We also take a line from the masthead to an anchor well ashore to make sure that our initial lean is to shore and not risking a fall in the "wrong" direction, but that would be very unlikely.
This pic is more careening than "standing upright drying".
Careening is better for occasional maintenance-painting,etc

Standing dryout is more for high water docks & drying moorings & is a twice daily occurrence in tidal areas. This is when legs,vertical support,or beaching cribs come in handy/ Len
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This pic is more careening than "standing upright drying".
Careening is better for occasional maintenance-painting,etc

Standing dryout is more for high water docks & drying moorings & is a twice daily occurrence in tidal areas. This is when legs,vertical support,or beaching cribs come in handy/ Len
Sure, you're right! That's pretty much why I identified this as a picture of careening.

I agree that it would not be a suitable practice for a twice daily event.
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Falling off the standing position on the keel to the hard bank can cause huge damage, injury or worse. I can see the advantage of leaning slightly to a strong wall or tied to strong pilings, but I would not risk a balance depending upon anchors.
Falling off after drying is asking for damage. Lying down as the tide leaves is quite safe if you know the bottom is clear.

I personally would not trust anchors unless:
I knew they were well set
Mast halyard(s) were run to said anchors to gain leverage
No amount of wind forecast
Not for bolted on or fin keels

But-sometimes you have to work with what is available
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Sure, you're right! That's pretty much why I identified this as a picture of careening.

I agree that it would not be a suitable practice for a twice daily event.
Sorry-I missed "careening" in your description.

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Re: Tidal areas-Drying out

The other options are just find a muddy estuary or buy a yacht with two keels so it doesn't fall over.

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The other options are just find a muddy estuary or buy a yacht with two keels so it doesn't fall over.

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I agree.
Sadly,twin keels are not that easily available on this side of pond.
There is not very much rise & fall til you get well north & then "yachting" thins out due to severe climate & short season I guess.

One of the major differences of UK & northern EU yachting is that you have to go out in conditions that would be avoided as too rough for many over here. Just geography I guess. / Len
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One of the major differences of UK & northern EU yachting is that you have to go out in conditions that would be avoided as too rough for many over here. Just geography I guess. / Len
Naah.. fewer wimps..
Some of us even sail through the winters here at 052N and further in N Europe/UK..
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