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Old 20-03-2019, 13:20   #1
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Lifting dinghy out for the night

Good day all!

I just made a nifty new sling out of 1" webbing for my 10' Mercury inflatable so that we can lift her out of the water at night alongside Rocinante using our main halyard - trying to control the marine growth!

Question; those of you that do the same, do you leave the outboard on?
Seems like a lot of work to take the outboard off, mount it on the aft rail and then repeat the process in reverse the following morning.

I have a 15hp Mercury 2-stroke that weighs ~75 lbs, so figure total weight is I don't know, 175-200lbs?

Can't imagine that's too much for the main halyard and associated gear to handle... thoughts?

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Old 20-03-2019, 13:30   #2
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

The halyard can handle it, although I might be a little concerned about pulling at an angle on the sheave up top for issues of possible chafe. Do you have chocks ready for the dinghy to be placed in with room for the engine? If you can keep the engine from banging the boat or more importantly, you and crew, on its way over the lifelines , itís probably ok.
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Old 20-03-2019, 14:32   #3
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The halyard can handle it, although I might be a little concerned about pulling at an angle on the sheave up top for issues of possible chafe. Do you have chocks ready for the dinghy to be placed in with room for the engine? If you can keep the engine from banging the boat or more importantly, you and crew, on its way over the lifelines , itís probably ok.
Thanks for the response Don C L.
Let me clarify; the dinghy is not coming on board.
The intent is to lift it up and leave it hanging alongside for the night while we're at anchor so that it's not sitting in the water for weeks at a time growing stuff!
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

We definitely lift the dinghy each night. To reduce growth, to prevent theft, to prevent other inadvertent loss of dinghy, and to keep the dinghy from bumping into the hull.

We have davits, but lifting the dinghy is still an effort. Our lifting bridle is spliced dyneema and connects to three lifting points inside the dinghy.

Your setup seems fine to me. I would leave the motor on for the night.
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

We've done this at times for many years. In our case, we've used the spinny halyard to hoist, thus eliminating any imagined chafe that could occur with the fixed sheave for the main halyard. But really, even with the main, the angle where it leaves the sheave box is pretty small, and there is little motion, so chafe shouldn't be an issue.

Be sure to remove the drain plug and angle the dink slightly bow up in case of heavy rain... a dink full of water might overstress something for sure!

Oh... we leave the motor (Yammie 15 2 stroke) attached.

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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

We lift as SVRocinante described. Using our main halyard we lift the dinghy in benign conditions with the motor on. We lift it about 3í out of the water and let it rest against out rub strake. Out dinghy is lighter though. We have and air floor and a 40 lb outboard.
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

Thanks Sparx, Jim & Tayana42; appreciate the feedback and first-hand knowledge.

We always deflate and bring our dinghy onboard in rough weather or any passage longer than a few hours, but we tend to stay in at least some of our anchorages for a few weeks at a time. Last year, we spotted someone doing this while we were in Cuttyhunk, but couldn't remember if they had left the outboard on or not... always good to get confirmation from those that are doing it!

I'm playing with the sling lengths as we speak; right now, the bow is angled substantially more than "slightly" - but I'll get it right!

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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

Using( winching) your main halyard off to the side will cause chafe. Using a Spinnaker halyard will prevent this but you're still far from the dinghy so block and tackle on a halyard has worked best for me. And you will find two block and tackles more than worth while if you're doing it on a regular basis. The photo makes the block and tackles look like they're leaning forward but they're both going to a ring on my main halyardClick image for larger version

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PS. One of the main benefits of hauling the dinghy out of the water is not having to bail it out when it rains.
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

Two more points. With a 15 horsepower it's definitely worth having two block and tackles. 2 I have found that I do not need to haul my dinghy out more than once every 3 days to stop Bottom growth.
Less in winter.
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

We just leave it in with two painters and never a problem (well there was a problem once which is why two painters).

Every now and then get her to the beach and give her a scrub.

No worries at all :-)
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

Thank you sparrowhawk1; appreciate the info and photo!

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We just leave it in with two painters and never a problem (well there was a problem once which is why two painters).

Every now and then get her to the beach and give her a scrub.

No worries at all :-)
Thatís been our normal as well akprb, but we got a lot of hard growth this past summer and I was getting concerned about the damage the barnacles might be doing... thought Iíd give this method a try
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

I used to lift it up like that a lot. It does heel the boat a bit. Also, in an iffy anchorage and if you get blown out in the middle of the night not a good situation. One reason I love davits. Probably in the top 10 of "handy things for cruising" IMHO.
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I used to lift it up like that a lot. It does heel the boat a bit. Also, in an iffy anchorage and if you get blown out in the middle of the night not a good situation. One reason I love davits. Probably in the top 10 of "handy things for cruising" IMHO.
Thanks Cheechako all good points.

We really don't care for davits, but acknowledge that we're certainly in the minority! We avoid iffy anchorages and if forced to use one for some reason, would not have the dinghy lifted off the side like that, but rather deflated and stowed on deck as per our norm when underway in open waters / iffy weather.
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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

We do; using a SS ring, three sizeable clips, some repurposed 3/8 line and the spin halyard (on a rotating pulley topside, on a gallows out front) over a winch on the mast.

We leave the motor on, and I can manage the single-turn (no mechanical advantage) lift with the winch by Armstrong.

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Re: Lifting dinghy out for the night

PS a bit of fiddling let us control the attitude of the dink; I shortened the outside aft lift a bit by just readjusting the loop-"knot" over the ring, and left a lot of room in the bowline loop on the bow so I could adjust to either 15 or 6HP...
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