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Old 13-01-2017, 09:09   #91
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Re: Hookah ,diy

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OK, good. Then I should add the 5 foot Heat Transfer Hose Extension?
I would recommend it, yes.
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Re: Hookah ,diy

My experience which of course is way less than Fstbttms,is that with a 2.5 gl aluminum tank, any significant heat is dissipated by the tank, different of course if you hooked directly into the compressor like I think most Hooka's do.
Deleting the tank saves both weight and space of course
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Old 13-01-2017, 09:36   #93
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My experience which of course is way less than Fstbttms,is that with a 2.5 gl aluminum tank, any significant heat is dissipated by the tank, different of course if you hooked directly into the compressor like I think most Hooka's do.
Deleting the tank saves both weight and space of course
My experience is the same. Of course, there's no harm in the extra 5' of hose.
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Old 13-01-2017, 09:48   #94
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Hookah ,diy

This will be our Hookah setup. Here's the details if it may help other CF members.

1) California Air Tools 2010ALFC Ultra Quiet, Oil-Free & Lightweight 1.0 hp Industrial Air Compressor, 2.0 gallon $255, 35 lbs
4.00 CFM at 40 PSI & 3.00 CFM at 90 PSI; Max 125 PSI. Ultra Quiet 60 decibels
4000 hour motor life. MP100LF motor/pump. 110V 60 Hz - 7.6 Amps. 1400 RPM
2.0 Gallon Aluminum (Rust-Free) Air Tank.
L (17.3") x W (14.2") x H (14.6")

2) 75 foot certified air breathing hose scuba/ hookah with Cressi regulator with Walmec quick connects. Cressi is a 2nd stage adjustable air flow.

3) 5 foot Heat Transfer Hose Extension

4) 04P 2.25" Solberg Pancake Style Air Compressor Intake Element Filter (white).
Note: Replace the original yellow toxic paper filter and buy a white paper filter.

5) Campbell Hausfeld MP513803av filter water separator
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Old 13-01-2017, 11:02   #95
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Re: Hookah ,diy

I own this one already. Oil-less, 4SCFM at 90psi.
Any problems you guys see with sticking it on the boat and using it as a hookah when we leave?
Cotemar, thanks for the pics, I'll supplement with what you bought.
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Old 13-01-2017, 11:06   #96
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Re: Hookah ,diy

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My experience which of course is way less than Fstbttms,is that with a 2.5 gl aluminum tank, any significant heat is dissipated by the tank, different of course if you hooked directly into the compressor like I think most Hooka's do
I never considered that. But as a64pilot mentioned, an accumulator tank is unnecessary.
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Here’s the final details of our Hookah DIY, if it may help other CF members.

1) California Air Tools 2010ALFC Ultra Quiet, Oil-Free & Lightweight.
1.0 hp Industrial Air Compressor, 2.0 gallon, 35 lbs $255
4.00 CFM at 40 PSI & 3.00 CFM at 90 PSI; Max 125 PSI. Ultra Quiet 60 decibels
4000 hour motor life. MP100LF motor/pump. 110V 60 Hz - 7.6 Amps. 1400 RPM
2.0 Gallon Aluminum (Rust-Free) Air Tank.
L (17.3") x W (14.2") x H (14.6")

2) Campbell Hausfeld MP513803av filter / water separator $16.29

3) 75 foot certified air breathing hose scuba/ hookah with Cressi regulator with Walmec quick connects.
Cressi Octopus XS2 is a 2nd stage with adjustable air flow. From GatorGillunit.com $289

I get 2 minutes of breathing just from what’s in the 2 gal. tank before the compressor starts to fill again.

This compressor is so amazingly quiet.

Note: You could save another $100 if you purchased the California Air Tools 2010A instead of the 2010ALFC Industrial Series

Total cost of this Hookah ,DIY was $560
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Hookah ,diy

You did your homework much better than I did, I have the cheaper compressor, actually two of them, I'll give one to the kid I guess.
I also just used a regular old scuba reg that is years past when it should have been rebuilt, but works.
I don't see a heat transfer hose
Compressor is so quiet that I leave it inside the boat, that eliminates any possibility of getting salt water on it, and no way it can bother anybody.
I did have one tied down to the base of the mast on a rough passage, it looked fine, but was frozen solid.
Oh and a swivel like this is real nice to have on the reg, keeps the hose from pulling the reg.
http://www.caveadventurers.com/store/swivel.html
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Re: Hookah ,diy

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You will find that without a heat dissapation hose between the compressor and your main breathing air hose, the hose (where it attaches to the compressor) will dry out, crack, leak and eventually need to be cut back to good hose. How rapidy this occurs will depend on often and long you use the hookah.
Anyone have a link to this hose? I did a google search and guess my google kung fu is not all that strong.

Also just checked on Amazon for reviews and found this:

1. Only use this product with an extension cord that is 14 gauge and NO Longer than 25 feet.


2. Use only with a 3500 watt (low harmonic distortion) generator.


I have a standard Honda 200 which Cal Air says is not adequate. Also have a big battery bank with only a 4000W inverter which I might be able to use. Wondering what you guys that have one can add from real world experience.
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Oh and a swivel like this is real nice to have on the reg, keeps the hose from pulling the reg.
Cave Adventurers - Swivel - Marianna, Florida USA - Never Undersold!
Great Idea. I will order one of those Swivels right now.

Thanks for all the help.
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Re: Hookah ,diy

Cotemar, thanks for that clear simple menu for your DIY hookah. I missed it if you posted earlier, but how deep can you go with that? Have you ever taken it 75' down? And, if not limited by the hose length, could you go deeper?
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If it helps my compressor will easily run off of my Nexgen 3500 gen and or my Magnum 2812 inverter which I think is only 2800 W
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Anyone have a link to this hose?
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Also just checked on Amazon for reviews and found this:

1. Only use this product with an extension cord that is 14 gauge and NO Longer than 25 feet.
That's liability bulls*t. I regularly use a bigger compressor with higher amp draw with 50' of 14 guage cord and often add another 25' extension. Run it all day like that. No problems.
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...how deep can you go with that?
My guess is that based on the displacement and output of the compressor, you'd be pushing its limits at 20'-25'.
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Anyone have a link to this heat hose?
You do not need a 5 foot Heat hose if your using a California Air Tools compressor with the Aluminum Tank.

You only need the Heat Hose if you going straight into the compressor head like some other compressors are doing.
If you think you need one you can purchase one from here.
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