Electric tender motor

Glenda · 11-08-2006, 20:16

Hi
has any body tried the electric 'outboards' that are available for tenders? We have just bought a Beneteau 41s5

but it has no tender with it at all. I am leaning toward an inflatable with a blow up floor and keel but the engine to drive it is a problem. We would like to stay away from carry petrol if we can.

Glenda

**Kai Nui** · 11-08-2006, 22:19

This is my opinion only, you may have a different experience. I do not like the blow up floors, When getting in and out of the dinghy, and handing things in and out, the wood floors feel much more stable to me. As for the electric trolling motors, I know people who use them, but with a big enough battery to have any range, you do not save any weight, the battery needs to be charged, which can be an inconvenience on board, and If you run out of juice on your way to the dinghy dock, it can be a long row back. I understand the logic, and would like to avoid gas on my boat as well, but over the years have found the convenience of a gas outboard to outweigh all other issues.

SkiprJohn · 11-08-2006, 22:29

Aloha Glenda,

Yes I sent this under the Dinghy Outboard Motors

I respectfully disagree with Kai. Anything to save us from fossil fuel dependence is a plus. In an emergency situation where pure power is needed I will opt for a small outboard maybe up to 6hp. For now I'm happy with the little electric and a 4hp Johnson backup. Inflatables are slower and require more power but you can still use electric.

I've been using a MinnKota 27lb thrust electric on my 11ft hard dinghy for quite some time. It gets me where I need to go on a calm day but have not used it in heavy weather. I used my old '55 5hp Gale the last big storm we had and it worked ok.
Has anyone else considered using electric? Just requires a freshly charged battery from time to time that you can recharge with a solar panel. West Marine also sells 50lb thrust models that our club uses on our West Wight Potter 19. It works great.
Regards, --JohnL--

Strygaldwir · 11-08-2006, 23:22

Are you going to use your tender for away from home cruising? I ask because when you are on the hook, electricity "tends" to be a precious commodity. How will you recharge your battery? It may not make sense to charge the battery in your dinghy by using fossil fuels to create the energy.

How do you generated energy aboard? How is your consumption in relation to your generated output?

Next, how will you use your tender? We did a LOT of exploring in ours. It was usually easier to find a good anchorage then explore with the dinghy, as opposed to moving the boat. How many people, how far away do you have to anchor from those essential services (Alcohol, food, fuel, friends, laundry, booze, internet, parts you didn't bring, booze etc.)

If you're in a marina, definately an electric, if not, Hmmm,,, more difficult.

Oh, and Hardbottoms are good, if you can get them up on a plane! Might not be possible with an electric.

Glenda · 12-08-2006, 01:21

Thanks for the replys and comments. As we haven't even taken over this boat yet I cannot comment on the energy consumption. Certainly in the first place we will only sailing around adelaide and it's gulfs, but I do a fair amount of diving and may use it to dive from. I would probably charge it with solar as suggested

Strygaldwir · 12-08-2006, 08:33

Hmmm... We use our's for diving. Our dinghy is 11 feet long. When we load our tanks, weights, BCs, fins, masks and the two of us, it makes for a very heavy dinghy. Our dinghy is a rigid fiberglass bottom which gives us a solid place to set the equipment. With all this equipment and a 10 horse power motor it is almost impossible for us to come up on plane. Not a biggy, just very slow.

How about stability? We take our tanks out in the water then launch ourselves in over the gunwhales. WE grab a line on the opposite side and pull ourselves in. Pretty inellegant, but it works.

Good luck, I am very interested in seeing if it works out!

Keith

exranger · 12-08-2006, 22:21

How about a trolling motor as a backup???? I am thinking of that for my Catalina 27

SkiprJohn · 13-08-2006, 02:02

Aloha Ex,
Our club uses a 50lb thrust electric trolling motor for the West Wight Potter 19 as the primary auxiliary. We don't use a gas outboard. It gets us on and off the mooring and up the Wailoa River for haulout just fine. The Potter is quite a bit smaller and at 1300 lbs quite a bit lighter than your 27 but the electric would move your 27 around very well in light air. Borrow one from a friend and try it. You'll like it - guaranteed.
Kind Regards, --JohnL--

11-08-2006, 20:16	#1
Glenda Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Boat: Beneteau 41S5 - Sea Hawk Posts: 7	Electric tender motor Hi has any body tried the electric 'outboards' that are available for tenders? We have just bought a Beneteau 41s5 but it has no tender with it at all. I am leaning toward an inflatable with a blow up floor and keel but the engine to drive it is a problem. We would like to stay away from carry petrol if we can. Glenda

11-08-2006, 22:19	#2
Kai Nui Captain Site Administrator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Moss Landing, Ca Boat: 37' Piver Lodestar - Kai Nui Posts: 4,383 Images: 80	This is my opinion only, you may have a different experience. I do not like the blow up floors, When getting in and out of the dinghy, and handing things in and out, the wood floors feel much more stable to me. As for the electric trolling motors, I know people who use them, but with a big enough battery to have any range, you do not save any weight, the battery needs to be charged, which can be an inconvenience on board, and If you run out of juice on your way to the dinghy dock, it can be a long row back. I understand the logic, and would like to avoid gas on my boat as well, but over the years have found the convenience of a gas outboard to outweigh all other issues. __________________ There is no better bilge pump than a scared sailor with a bucket. KAI NUI

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11-08-2006, 22:29	#3
SkiprJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kea'au, Big Island, Hawaii Boat: Cascade, Cutter, 42 - "Casual" Posts: 3,753	Aloha Glenda, Yes I sent this under the Dinghy Outboard Motors I respectfully disagree with Kai. Anything to save us from fossil fuel dependence is a plus. In an emergency situation where pure power is needed I will opt for a small outboard maybe up to 6hp. For now I'm happy with the little electric and a 4hp Johnson backup. Inflatables are slower and require more power but you can still use electric. I've been using a MinnKota 27lb thrust electric on my 11ft hard dinghy for quite some time. It gets me where I need to go on a calm day but have not used it in heavy weather. I used my old '55 5hp Gale the last big storm we had and it worked ok. Has anyone else considered using electric? Just requires a freshly charged battery from time to time that you can recharge with a solar panel. West Marine also sells 50lb thrust models that our club uses on our West Wight Potter 19. It works great. Regards, --JohnL--

11-08-2006, 23:22	#4
Strygaldwir Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Herndon, Virginia Boat: Privilege 37 Posts: 577 Images: 5	Are you going to use your tender for away from home cruising? I ask because when you are on the hook, electricity "tends" to be a precious commodity. How will you recharge your battery? It may not make sense to charge the battery in your dinghy by using fossil fuels to create the energy. How do you generated energy aboard? How is your consumption in relation to your generated output? Next, how will you use your tender? We did a LOT of exploring in ours. It was usually easier to find a good anchorage then explore with the dinghy, as opposed to moving the boat. How many people, how far away do you have to anchor from those essential services (Alcohol, food, fuel, friends, laundry, booze, internet, parts you didn't bring, booze etc.) If you're in a marina, definately an electric, if not, Hmmm,,, more difficult. Oh, and Hardbottoms are good, if you can get them up on a plane! Might not be possible with an electric.

12-08-2006, 01:21	#5
Glenda Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Boat: Beneteau 41S5 - Sea Hawk Posts: 7	Thanks for the replys and comments. As we haven't even taken over this boat yet I cannot comment on the energy consumption. Certainly in the first place we will only sailing around adelaide and it's gulfs, but I do a fair amount of diving and may use it to dive from. I would probably charge it with solar as suggested

12-08-2006, 08:33	#6
Strygaldwir Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Herndon, Virginia Boat: Privilege 37 Posts: 577 Images: 5	Hmmm... We use our's for diving. Our dinghy is 11 feet long. When we load our tanks, weights, BCs, fins, masks and the two of us, it makes for a very heavy dinghy. Our dinghy is a rigid fiberglass bottom which gives us a solid place to set the equipment. With all this equipment and a 10 horse power motor it is almost impossible for us to come up on plane. Not a biggy, just very slow. How about stability? We take our tanks out in the water then launch ourselves in over the gunwhales. WE grab a line on the opposite side and pull ourselves in. Pretty inellegant, but it works. Good luck, I am very interested in seeing if it works out! Keith

12-08-2006, 22:21	#7
exranger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Florida Boat: O-Day 32 CC Slow Ride Posts: 159	How about a trolling motor as a backup???? I am thinking of that for my Catalina 27

13-08-2006, 02:02	#8
SkiprJohn Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kea'au, Big Island, Hawaii Boat: Cascade, Cutter, 42 - "Casual" Posts: 3,753	Aloha Ex, Our club uses a 50lb thrust electric trolling motor for the West Wight Potter 19 as the primary auxiliary. We don't use a gas outboard. It gets us on and off the mooring and up the Wailoa River for haulout just fine. The Potter is quite a bit smaller and at 1300 lbs quite a bit lighter than your 27 but the electric would move your 27 around very well in light air. Borrow one from a friend and try it. You'll like it - guaranteed. Kind Regards, --JohnL--