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Old 20-05-2018, 13:27   #1
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Diy version of portland pudgy?

Just wondering what your version of a Portland Pudgy be like?
What sort of rig, features, design?
Im thinking of a 8ft scow like a mini version of Matt Layden's Paradox.
Built in buoyancy probably even foam construction, not necessarily flat bottom, built in water tank under the floor with a katadyn survivor 35 to fill it up, enough room for one person to lay/sleep, drop down leeboards so more room down below reefable lug rig for its short spars and big sail area downwind. Oversized gudgeon and pintles even a mini trim tab on the rudder... And a mini drogue!

Anyway these are just my ideas what do you think?
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Old 20-05-2018, 16:55   #2
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Re: Diy version of portland pudgy?

Ok. I'll bite.

Personally I'd like a smaller, lighter, one person version. More like a wider, deeper sit-on-top kayak. One oar would rig as a cat rigged mast with the blade in a slot near the bow, perhaps extending deep enough to act as a keel. The other oar as a tiller/rudder through an oar lock on the transom. The sail would double as a cover. Painter would double as a single sheet for the sail, cleated to either side of the transom. It wouldn't be set up for recreational sailing and blasting around the anchorage, just enough propulsion to get somewhere.

7-8 feet long, 3-4 feet wide with room to sleep. Simple canvas bags could be tied to each corner to fill with water for stability and hopefully, self righting. Water tight hatches for ditch bag epirb etc. Central rowing thwart would act as a lee cloth when sleeping in rough conditions.

Oh yeah, dirt cheap would be good.

I don't know how heavy a PP is once it's loaded up, but I doubt I could toss it over the life lines like i do with my kayak. <60 pounds would be about right.

Basically, less than the original. Don't need that little keel wheel if you can carry it up the beach.

You can probably guess that I'm a single hander on a small boat. Everything has to have two uses.

Let me know when it's available.

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Re: Diy version of portland pudgy?

Google "surf 9 dinghy"
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Old 21-05-2018, 08:25   #4
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Re: Diy version of portland pudgy?

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One oar would rig as a cat rigged mast with the blade in a slot near the bow, perhaps extending deep enough to act as a keel.

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Now thats clever! Something Bolger could have done. You coud go overboard and add a mizzen mast as well and have a cat ketch

Matt Layden's Sand Flea is actually really close to what I am thinking of. Perhaps a bit too heavy to toss over the side...


I don't think your idea of using the seat as a lee cloth is doable. I would want to sleep right in the center of the boat tucked between the port&stbd floatation tank.
There's a PDRacer called Ocean Explorer that looks interesting.

I didn't know the surf 9 its definitely the idea and Im a big fan of Paul Fisher.

Keep em coming!
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Old 21-05-2018, 08:28   #5
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Old 21-05-2018, 10:43   #6
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Re: Diy version of portland pudgy?

The "Spindrift 10 la Laser" I splashed today to test would fit as well.

I'll replace the forward hatch by a yacht hatch.
Has a forward decklocker in which you could sleep ;-)

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Old 21-05-2018, 13:41   #7
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Re: Diy version of portland pudgy?

Congrats on the launching!
I like your decked over take on the spindrift!
How long did it take you to build? Did you weight her yet?
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Re: Diy version of portland pudgy?

Thanks.

Building took me two weeks until now.
She's not painted yet. Just epoxy.

Deck and rig are from an old Laser.
I use a Laser Radial sail.

Did not get to weigh her yet, but she's not especially light as I added a layer of glas to the outside.
Maybe I should have used 4mm ply instead. But then again she's a robust little tender now.

I'll post more once she's finished.

Freeboard is 1 inch higher than on the drawings.
Gunwhale will be 1 1/4 inch garden hose with plastic strip inside.
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Fai Tira, I see u are on a 32 footer. The thing about the Portland that nixed it for me was the weight. I have a 30 foot trimaran so I have plenty of room for it on the nets. I like their robust nature also. But with all of the stuff you want to throw on her with sail rig, rudder, Lee-way boards, etc ... easily you are pushing 200+ lbs.

Which brings me to the point of asking how do you plan on deploying this monster? I will be buying a Porte-Bote. The 10' model and largercan be rigged with lanteen sails and rudder. The 8' model is about 65 lbs and folds up like a surf board. They are unsinkable. Check it out.
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The photo appears to show a person inside the "Ocean Explorer" (hyperbole or wishful thinking on the boat name?).

But, that person appears to be a small child.
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The photo appears to show a person inside the "Ocean Explorer" (hyperbole or wishful thinking on the boat name?).

But, that person appears to be a small child.
Look at this video @ 2 min mark an adult is sleeping in there

https://youtu.be/YhlAfUweOcw

At the end of the video he struggle to lift the boat on the trailer. That thing is too heavy!
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Fai Tira, I see u are on a 32 footer. The thing about the Portland that nixed it for me was the weight. I have a 30 foot trimaran so I have plenty of room for it on the nets. I like their robust nature also. But with all of the stuff you want to throw on her with sail rig, rudder, Lee-way boards, etc ... easily you are pushing 200+ lbs.

Which brings me to the point of asking how do you plan on deploying this monster? I will be buying a Porte-Bote. The 10' model and largercan be rigged with lanteen sails and rudder. The 8' model is about 65 lbs and folds up like a surf board. They are unsinkable. Check it out.
I tried them, I think they are great at what they do but they're not for me. They feel wobbly when rowing. Which I tend to do more and more.
Right now I have a 12ft rowing dinghy nested on deck a 7ft deflatable with an 3.5hp outboard and a liferaft. It would be great to combine them in one!
What keeps me off a PP is their price.
I've built my 12ft for 150€ with sailrig included.
Another thing to consider is thieves. I'd be constantly worried leaving my PP at the dock or beach or behind the boat at night. Even locked.
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Fai Tira, I agree the Porte-Botes are expensive. I also have the same fears of theft.
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