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Old 18-04-2015, 16:23   #1
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3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

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I've got a Zodiac RIB, and the Hypalon around the transom has separated from the Hypalon of of the port inflated tube. No big problem, but I would like to make the boat stiffer.
Has anybody used 3M's 5200 product for such a repair? 5200 just seems stronger (and easier to use) to me than the glues that are recommended. Any experience or opinions out there?
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Old 18-04-2015, 16:37   #2
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

I used it. No good.

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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

It will work. Will work better if you clean surface with toulene (or acetone if that's what's available). Hard part is keeping parts together until it dries.

That said if it was mine and I was planning on keeping it I would use proper glue.
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Old 19-04-2015, 03:23   #4
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

Barnakiel:
Thanks. YOu may have saved me from making a big mistake.
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

SV Lift:
Thanks. I iwll use the proper glue.
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

the zodiac is not hypalon but PVC ,(at least the one I own is not)

I have had good results using the 2pack glue for PVC,after sanding,cleaning with acetone then 3 layers of the 2pack contact cement.

pvc dinghies do not like too much heat which can be a cause of them coming unglued.

5200 or sikaflex 295 works well on hypalon if the repair is clamped,but useless on PVC
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Old 19-04-2015, 07:37   #7
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

Use the proper glue and the proper preparation. Be sure to determine if it's PVC or Hypalon before you purchase the glue and buy glue to match.
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Old 19-04-2015, 08:48   #8
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

I heard cement 2000 is the wright product.

Good luck

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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

Probably a dumb question but ....how do you determine if it is hypalon or if it is PVC?
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

I used it 11 years ago and still holding fine. big patch.
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Old 19-04-2015, 10:37   #11
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

As mentioned already, it is likely PVC if it is a Zodiac.

I've used a lot of the various recommended glues on my Zodiac and haven't found anything that holds with longevity near as good as this stuff (HH-66 Vinyl Cement):

HH-66 Vinyl Cement - Contact Adhesive for Vinyl 16oz

It's also a lot cheaper than the small 2-parts available from WM. Check out this guy's video (also linked from Sailrite if this doesn't work):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=r9in1yI9if4

I re-glued our entire floor following his instructions and it worked out just as he shows.

Hope this helps. I haven't tried 5200, but I don't think it would work out well. Next time I'll be going with a Hypalon RIB.
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

If it says Zodiac, it is likely PVC.
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

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Probably a dumb question but ....how do you determine if it is hypalon or if it is PVC?
Here is a good explanation:
With Used Dinghies, How to Tell if PVC or Hypalon?
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

If your transom has lost it's seal with the tubes you have a major problem that is difficult to repair. Some pros won't do and some amateurs have done it. My guess is that most transom repairs are not to the satisfaction of the owner. You are ready for a new dinghy.


That said, the repair kits sold by everyone I have seen do not include 5200 from any manufacturer. Also, read and follow the instructions which include cleaning, using two layers of glue, waiting the appropriate time then putting the parts back together.


Depending on your level of expertise and how well you accept disappointment then go ahead and give it a shot. I'm trying to be realistic and not negative.
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Re: 3M 5200 to fix dinghy?

What is the best way to glue the rubrails back onto a hypalon dinghy? Ours are starting to peel off...
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