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Old 18-08-2013, 13:40   #46
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Re: Why Cotter Pins

BEVERLEY:

As remarked earlier, it's one of those "separated by a common language" things. You say "split pins" and we say "cotter pins", and we are referring to the same thing by different names.

Others that come to mind are "bottlescrew" vs. "turnbuckle", and "spanner" and "crawling spanner" for "wrench" and "crescent wrench". One just has to learn them.

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Is there an easy way to get cotter pins out without cutting them? The ones on our boat are jammed in the holes and difficult to get out.
Straighten legs as best as you can.

Grab the loop end with needle nose pliers. (one tip in the hole, one out).

Tap with hammer.
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Straighten legs as best as you can.

Grab the loop end with needle nose pliers. (one tip in the hole, one out).

Tap with hammer.

I use needle nose vice grips.
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Re: Why Cotter Pins

It's good to hear different points of view...it sounds like people have had success with both. How big do the pins need to be in relation to the hole. One of the problems I've had is that the pins seem to be over sized. They must have used a hammer to get them in there in the first place. So once they're bent it's almost impossible to get them out. I feel like there should be a little wiggle room...thoughts?
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It's good to hear different points of view...it sounds like people have had success with both. How big do the pins need to be in relation to the hole. One of the problems I've had is that the pins seem to be over sized. They must have used a hammer to get them in there in the first place. So once they're bent it's almost impossible to get them out. I feel like there should be a little wiggle room...thoughts?


Buy a pair of needle nose vice grips. Clip them onto the "legs" side of the pin and use them to snap both legs off by twisting. Then clip onto the other side and pull. Easy.
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I use needle nose vice grips.
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It's good to hear different points of view...it sounds like people have had success with both. How big do the pins need to be in relation to the hole. One of the problems I've had is that the pins seem to be over sized. They must have used a hammer to get them in there in the first place. So once they're bent it's almost impossible to get them out. I feel like there should be a little wiggle room...thoughts?
New cotter / split pins should slide in by hand without any difficulty but they should not be wobbly .

For those of you that re-use pins, you might need some needle nose vice grips to help you to insert them
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lolol.... good ole of USA...
This side of the water the big stainless bolt thingy is called a Cotter Pin... and the thingy that goes through the hole at one end and opens to stop it falling out is called a split pin...
Just thought you'd appreciate the translation to English..
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lolol.... good ole of USA...
This side of the water the big stainless bolt thingy is called a Cotter Pin... and the thingy that goes through the hole at one end and opens to stop it falling out is called a split pin...
Just thought you'd appreciate the translation to English..

And where is the Clevis pin???
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Re: Why Cotter Pins

A "real" cotter pin is the tapered, cylindrical item, with a flat ground along its length, used to hold the pedals on the shaft of a pedal cycle. Secured with a 1/4 " British Standard Whitworth nut and washer, Boatie , Atoll, back me up.

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A "real" cotter pin is the tapered, cylindrical item, with a flat ground along its length, used to hold the pedals on the shaft of a pedal cycle. Secured with a 1/4 " British Standard Whitworth nut and washer, Boatie , Atoll, back me up.

There !!--that's settled!!
LOLOL... now ya know why 'Raku' will never listen to my advice...
Tho' funny enuf the chandler usually knows what I mean... terminology is not a strong point...
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