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Old 23-05-2017, 12:27   #1
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What Sail Is This?

I am trying to determine if this sail is a symmetrical spinnaker or not. The shape seems right (it's about 35'-40' tall, 20' wide, folds symmetrically down the center) and the boat is rigged for a spinnaker pole, but the canvas is pretty heavy weight. Thicker and heavier than either the main or jib, and there is no spinnaker pole aboard. Obviously new to the boat and sailing, just trying to familiarize myself with what's aboard.
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Old 23-05-2017, 13:02   #2
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Re: What Sail Is This?

It is not a spinnaker.

It appears to be a mainsail. Your second picture shows an aluminum headboard that is used at the head of a main. The plastic slide (attached to the headboard) is to fit in a groove in a mast, and it keeps the head of the sail close to the mast when the sail is in use.

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Old 23-05-2017, 13:37   #3
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Welcome aboard here!
Yep, I'd second that, definitely a mainsail.
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Old 23-05-2017, 13:44   #4
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Absolutely not a mainsail. It's folded in half in the photo. The mainsail is also already rigged, and this has brass grommets where a mainsail wouldn't. Also has attachment points for sheets like a jib at both lower corners and about 1/3 of the way up both sides of the sail. Has sewn in wire and rope on the edges of the sail. Stitching looks like a spinnaker.
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Thanks for the welcome! Longtime lurker under a different username but forgot the credentials.
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Old 23-05-2017, 14:06   #6
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Re: What Sail Is This?

Well, I am surprised to see one of those in dacron. Used to see them in nylon about 3/4 oz, but never in heavy fabric, and not common. I think it may be a sail for sailing downwind without a mainsail. No poles needed, and the Hiscocks may have used one of the light weight ones and run the sheets to the tiller for sheet-to-tiller self steering during the crossing to Samoa, sorry don't remember, nor do I remember what they were called.

Anybody else got an idea?

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Fascinating!! Thanks for the lead! I'll update my profile with the boat info for the curious.
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Old 23-05-2017, 15:42   #8
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So, that's not it. It HAS to be a spinnaker that attaches to the mainmast track but fills on the headsail side. I tried rigging on the aft side of the mast, with laughable results. WAY to much material to work anywhere but the foredeck.Click image for larger version

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Re: What Sail Is This?

It's a mainsail, it's missing most of the slides for the luff, it's not a spinnaker, it's not for your boat.

Supposition: the sail was free, your PO salvaged slides from it and may have intended to use the material for a shade.
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It. Is. Not. A. Mainsail. Mainsailes are scalene triangles, this is isoscoles. In the pic equal parts of the sail are draped port and starboard with two sheet attachment points port and starboard. One on each corner, one more on each side 1/3 up the sail.
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It's a mainsail, it's missing most of the slides for the luff, it's not a spinnaker, it's not for your boat.

Supposition: the sail was free, your PO salvaged slides from it and may have intended to use the material for a shade.
Just because it came with the boat, doesn't mean it's for the boat.
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Old 23-05-2017, 16:06   #13
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And it is for my boat. Thanks anyway. I'll rig it like a spinnaker and post pics.
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And it is for my boat. Thanks anyway. I'll rig it like a spinnaker and post pics.


How do you know it's for your boat?

Does the bolt rope go all the way around?

How many tiny grommets are associated with the bolt rope?

Are you sure the eyes are not reef points?
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Absolutely not a mainsail. It's folded in half in the photo. The mainsail is also already rigged, and this has brass grommets where a mainsail wouldn't. Also has attachment points for sheets like a jib at both lower corners and about 1/3 of the way up both sides of the sail. Has sewn in wire and rope on the edges of the sail. Stitching looks like a spinnaker.

Absolutely IS a mainsail.
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