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Old 27-01-2019, 04:15   #1
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Traveler car - help me identify this 1994 example

I hate to post such a specific post, but can anyone help identify the traveler car system from my 1994 Dromor Athena? She is a 44 foot cruising monohull built with the normal tech from that era. I am pretty sure the car is original and the wheels need replacement. It sits about 3 inches above deck. Hopefully I can fix as a new traveler is big bucks! Click image for larger version

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Don't know the maker, but if you disassemble and measure the wheels, you should be able to find a machine shop to make new ones. In the meantime, cleaning and waxing the traveller tends to help a bit.
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Old 27-01-2019, 06:26   #3
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I believe it is a Giott. European boat?
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I believe it is a Giott. European boat?


+1, expensive parts. Try aftermarket
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Re: Traveler car - help me identify this 1994 example

Here is the manufacturers website

http://goiot-systems.com/en/
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Old 27-01-2019, 07:21   #6
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Iím in the states and had excellent service and pricing from these folks while buying Goiot hatch parts. Give them a shot.
http://www.international-boat-spares.com/en/42-goiot
Dealing with them was good via email.
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Itís GOIOT. The bird is their emblem.
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Old 27-01-2019, 13:14   #8
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Looks homemade.
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Re: Traveler car - help me identify this 1994 example

Looks like a 'Goiot 163 Traveller System'.....

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Standard 8-wheel Traveller Car: Goi 163-22:
Heavy-duty 8-Wheel Traveller Car for Goiot 163 Traveller Track consists of (2) Car bodies (as Goiot 163-21, above) joined together with special pivoting shackle attachment. Large T-shaped pivoting shackle attachment has a 10mm (3/8") hole for mainsheet block pin, and 6mm (1/4") holes for control blocks on each side. Car is 8 1/8" (205mm) long with a maximum width of 2 3/4" (70mm). Note: Wheels and axles on these cars are permanently affixed and are not replaceable. MM* 163.2
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Goiot is a specialty Hardware manufacturer in France. Goiot Traveller Systems, while most common on French sailboats, are frequently found on other European, and some US production sailboats.
For replacement parts you must first identify your Traveller System by measuring the Track. Track sizes are determined by the measuring the width of the Track across the top. Click on a specific Track to view its associated components. Track Section Profiles and measurements are provided below to assist you.
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Don't know what your problem is in its operation, but before you do anything else, remove one of the traveller rail end caps/stops and take the cars off the track. Inspect, clean and grease them well (as well as the track)- and re-assemble. If possible reverse the cars ie: P & S location. That may give you some time while you source replacement. Yes - replacement travellers are not cheap!!.
It may be possible to source other cars that fit the same track (yours) - they are mostly common designs produced by a few extruders and used by various parts manufacturers. Your track looks very familiar to others I have had and seen.
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Looks very similar to Nicro Fico traveler from same era. May be easier to find parts although not currently in production. RigRite?

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Old 27-01-2019, 23:18   #12
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Thanks for the comments everyone. It looks like it is a Goiot. The boat was made in Greece in 1994 and it has 2 Goiot hatches. The 4 pulleys that control the position are all due for replacement so I will start with that easy fix. The pulleys in the end fittings are very work and will fail sooner, but still spin. the wheels on the cars are failing now, so need attention as a priority but wonít keep me off the water. I will reach out to RigRite to see if they sell parts. Does anyone know if the wheels are replaceable?
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Old 28-01-2019, 17:35   #13
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The post from Islandhopper above states that the wheels are not replaceable.
However, any decent machine shop should be able to remove the old pins, make new ones and add stock wheels.
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Hi. Southern seas marine Australia have these old goiot cars in stock.
Lots of Goiot knowledge
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Just to update. The traveler car was indeed a Goiot 164 or 165 series traveler. It appears someone made a custom piece to connect 2 cars together as it was a SS part that was clearly different to the original pictures I found. Once I had it removed from the boat I realized I couldn't get the ends off the track as the mounting bolts had corroded in place and the sheaves did not spin. That could have been fixed at the machine shop and the car wheels could have been replaced, but the track had several gashes so after it all I wasn't sure i would be happy with the results.

I ended up finding the travelers from Garhauer were much cheaper than other options I had found. They also customized the mounting bolts at no charge which meant it was a simple drop in replacement (no new holes in the deck, no fiberglass work, big win). I was also able to get 6x1 mechanical advantage instead of (less than) 3x1 and a much cleaner line routing. All this combined I decided to simply replace the old one...

I don't know how much the machine shop approach would have cost, but the new traveler is installed now and looks and works great. Hopefully that feedback is useful to someone on the forum.
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