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15-09-2011, 12:59
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Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
After weighing up all the pros and cons I have decided to fit single line reefing to my new boat. I think the standard arrangement is first reef loses 20% sail area; 2nd reef another 20% & for the 3rd reef, standard dual line reefing is used to lose the next 20%. I am presuming that this will mean a trip to the mast to hook on the tack point or do you guys just pull the sail down on the reefing line and leave it? I have never been to the third reef on a boat with single line reefing.
Greg
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15-09-2011, 14:53
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single Line Reefing
As a rule, you run your reefing lines in before you leave port. If you get to the stage of needing a 3rd reef, you don't want to be messing around trying to run your lines.
We have 3 reef points. As a general rule I just rune lines into #1 and #2, but if the forecast is heavy or if we are going offshore, then I'll run the #3 line in too.
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15-09-2011, 15:18
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single Line Reefing
I have a line attached to the 3rd cringle at the leech, which goes to a turning block at the mast base, and back to cockpit. In theory, I dont need to make a trip to the mast to reef.
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15-09-2011, 16:44
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
We use single line reefing and have 3 reefs, but we only rig for 2 reefs at any time - #1 and #2 when coastal cruising and #2 and #3 when offshore. I put a long reef line on the #1 single line reefing and move it to the #3 position before going offshore. It is very, very rare that you will need 3 reefs when day sailing and coastal cruising. Or you made a very, very bad decision on the weather...
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15-09-2011, 17:58
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
How does single line reefing work when you have multiple reef points?
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15-09-2011, 18:03
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
One line for each reef point
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15-09-2011, 18:19
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
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Originally Posted by perchance
One line for each reef point
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Okay, thanks. I thought there was some magic way of getting a single line to serve multiple reef points and I couldn't figure out how that would work...it has been a long day so excuse me if it was dumb question...
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15-09-2011, 18:28
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
There are no dumb questions only dumb answers.
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15-09-2011, 18:28
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
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Originally Posted by colemj
We use single line reefing and have 3 reefs, but we only rig for 2 reefs at any time - #1 and #2 when coastal cruising and #2 and #3 when offshore. I put a long reef line on the #1 single line reefing and move it to the #3 position before going offshore. It is very, very rare that you will need 3 reefs when day sailing and coastal cruising. Or you made a very, very bad decision on the weather...
Mark
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We do the same. Reefing line for #1 and #3 is or course very long and attaches with snap shackles so its very easy and quick to change. #2 stays run for #2
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15-09-2011, 18:34
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
A single line for the deeper reefs always gets hung up though doesn't it? I always worry about chafe too.
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15-09-2011, 21:50
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
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Originally Posted by unbusted67
A single line for the deeper reefs always gets hung up though doesn't it? I always worry about chafe too.
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Never had a problem... Only thing worth mentioning is that hoisting the sail to full height the first time after you have had a reef (or worse - set both) there is noticeably more resistance from having to pull the reefing lines through their blocks as well.
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15-09-2011, 23:03
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Re: Third Reef Point with Single-Line Reefing
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Originally Posted by colemj
We use single line reefing and have 3 reefs, but we only rig for 2 reefs at any time - #1 and #2 when coastal cruising and #2 and #3 when offshore. I put a long reef line on the #1 single line reefing and move it to the #3 position before going offshore. It is very, very rare that you will need 3 reefs when day sailing and coastal cruising. Or you made a very, very bad decision on the weather...
Mark
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Me too!
I can only manage two sets of purchase blocks in the boom.
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