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Old 25-02-2008, 20:33   #1
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Single handed mast climb system

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Can anybody tell me what's the best system/brand to climb the mast alone?
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Old 25-02-2008, 21:05   #2
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Top Climber has worked well for me,
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Old 25-02-2008, 21:43   #3
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Old 28-02-2008, 02:01   #4
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I use standard mountaineering gear: a harness and 2 "jumars" and assorted webbing. When I can be winched up I use a comfortable bosuns chair on the halyard and one of the jumars on another halyard as my safety. That way my wife is only watching one line.
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Old 28-02-2008, 04:41   #5
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I climb with a harness and a couple prusiks. Second halyard as safety when someone is around to man it. Prusiks are very useful and cheap. Where as jumars or other mechanical rope grabs are expensive and single purpose. Not that there's anything wrong with having good equipment for a certain task, it's just that I keep things as low tech as possible. And I'm cheap.
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Old 28-02-2008, 07:18   #6
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I use standard mountaineering gear: a harness and 2 "jumars" and assorted webbing. When I can be winched up I use a comfortable bosuns chair on the halyard and one of the jumars on another halyard as my safety. That way my wife is only watching one line.
Why don't you use your bosuns chair with your jumars, similar to the TopClimber. That way you don't need your wife. For a safety line I use a rolling hitch on a seperate halyard and slide it up as I climb.
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Old 28-02-2008, 07:51   #7
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Rolling hitch as a safety, that's a recipe for disaster. I hope you never fall on that and have your life depend on it.
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Old 28-02-2008, 08:42   #8
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Rolling hitch as a safety, that's a recipe for disaster. I hope you never fall on that and have your life depend on it.
Why so? I've used a rolling hitch on many high load situations, such as relieving over-rides on sheet winches, anchoring bridles, etc, and never had slippage or failure of any kind. Every article I've ever read on the subject recommends the rolling hitch. If there's something I'm missing, I would really like to know, or if there is a better and safer way.

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Old 28-02-2008, 08:48   #9
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Marc, I'm heading out right now, will get to this later. Lots to discuss.
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Marc,
I haven't tried using the bosuns chari with the jumars, maybe I'll give it a try. It seemed like it would make it harder to climb, being in the way or slipping back.

I would also worry about using a rolling hitch as a safety. While it does hold perfect when tight, if you fall it may not tighten quickly enough. I think using a prusik loop would be quicker, easier and probably safer. (But I used to be a climber, so maybe I am just stuck in my old ways.)
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So it may also be with rigging for climbing.
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Mast steps. I've used them for 25+ years without a problem. My neighbor just installed folding steps and loves them.
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Marc,
Before I spout off, my opinions are based on many years experience with our departments tech rescue team and involvement with Chaffee County SAR.
The rolling hitch was never intended for fall protection/life safety. It may work, but it may not. It will be difficult to maintain the knot integrity while sliding it up the host rope. A prusik is what you want to use.
The British Columbia Council on Tech Rescue did extensive testing on systems, knots and equipment. The only recommendation they have is the prusik. Prusiks are cheap and have many uses. Of course there are many mechanical devices out there that do the same thing, just for a lot more $$$$.
Check out Animated Knots by Grog notice the recommended uses for the knots we're discussing. That site also does a decent job of describing how to tie them. Prusik size, diameter, is critical. Too large and the prusik will not grab the host rope. Too small and it will grip like hell and be difficult to undo and slide. Figure about 70-80 % of the host rope. For example a 10mm host rope would require a 7-8mm prusik.

Yes there is more than one way to skin a cat, but if my butt is hanging on a line it will be hanging on the RIGHT knot.

And like viking sailor said mast steps are great. If you aren't totally confidant climbing a rope don't. You can get hurt real bad.
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And like viking sailor said mast steps are great. If you aren't totally confidant climbing a rope don't. You can get hurt real bad.

Estrella has mast steps on the main mast so I tie two prussics to my climbing harness and take them up with me as I climb the steps. The mizzen has no steps so just prussics are used.

no need to spend $300+ on the "topclimber" which is just two ascenders and a harness ;-)
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the ATN topclimber works..... but

yea but...

I have an ATN topclimber. It does work, but is not nearly as easy to use as their marketing suggests. I have only used mine a half a dozen times, but now use it as an ordinary chair if there is anyone around.

Having winched others aloft, and used the ATN I recommend a regular old chair over it. If you have to do it singlehanded, it works but make sure to practice a bit before you need to use it underway.
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