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Old 22-08-2012, 19:29   #1
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Seizing For Jib Hanks

Some of the jib hanks I have are the tied on variety from years ago that were seized on with waxed thread. The kind of whipping you use for the ends of your lines.

Has anyone here on the forum used UV resistant nylon electrical ties instead of waxed thread?

I don't need new jib hanks or advice on how to buy different ones. These are the old bronze variety that have many years of life in them. I'm just trying to save some time in reseizing them to the luff of the sail.

Got any pros or cons to the idea of using UV resistant nylon electrical ties?

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Old 22-08-2012, 19:36   #2
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re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

Traditionally, these were seized on with Marline. Sure looks a lot better than electrical cable ties -- won't cut you like the sharp edge of a cut cable tie end either.


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Old 22-08-2012, 19:40   #3
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re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

You'd lose all your style points if you seized bronze with plastic.
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re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

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You'd lose all your style points if you seized bronze with plastic.
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re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

It's really not much time to redo them, and they look better too. Use the waxed line and a large needle. It takes less than five min for each one. Just make sure you leave one attached and study the way it's tied before you cut them all off. (had to go to the boat to get another sail)
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re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

It's really an easy job to re-whip these hanks! a palm and a curved needle, and maybe 15 mins per hank will put ya right back to snuff!! the waxed line is readly available in most any marine store and rigging shops! it's what I would do but then I admit to being old fashion!LOL but the idea of plastic holding on bronze just hurts my mind !!LOL and the sharpness of the clipped ends would worry me both for our hands and for the sails if ya ever get any flogging! just my 2 cents
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re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

If I were looking to buy a boat and I saw electric cable ties I would wonder what else the owner was capable of. I'd get off and look for a boat which has been maintained as a yacht, not a tuna boat.
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Old 23-08-2012, 14:16   #8
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Re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

Doggone David. Those are harsh words. Boat's not for sale.

Ok Captains. I have to agree. I was just trying to save a bit of time and might do a hank or two with electrical ties in a hasty emergency situation.

I have the palm and curved needles and waxed thread. Will just bite the bullet and redo them the proper yachty way. No way will I shine them bright though.

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Old 23-08-2012, 14:18   #9
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Re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

Oh, yes, I remember marlin on seizing on lifelines on my first Destroyer in '63. I know the material well and am intimately familiar with its rotting qualities. We always painted it heavily.
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I assure you SkiprJohn no offense was intended. Just my thoughts on how you might ultimately pay for "saving time".
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Re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

I agree that a proper siezing is lot's more 'yar,' but I also recall reading in some famous cruiser's' book (Pardey's?, Don Street?) that they used zip-ties as an emergency fix when the seizings started to go in bad weather, never got around to re-doing the seizings and the zip-ties were still going strong several years later.

As to the nasty ends -- get a good flush-cut nippers and cut them off really flat flush while you are stretching hell out of the tag end. That's how it's done in our electronics.

But the seizings are still the right way to go.
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Re: Seizing For Jib Hanks

I haven't had much luck with even the best quality UV resistant cable ties in the sun. Good for emergency fixes, but not much else.
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