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09-11-2014, 05:57
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Removing the forestay for repairs
Hello all,
It's that time of the year again, repair season.
I need to remove the headstay because there is some damage near the stem and I need to pull the stem fitting to examine things.
There's a chance I will pull the mast anyway, but if I don't, how long would you feel comfortable leaving the mast with the jib halyard and an staysail halyard in lieu of the forestay? This could be weeks/months while I do the repair. Is that crazy? I think it might be crazy.
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09-11-2014, 07:00
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Location: san diego
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
I don't think id worry about it much at all, assuming your halyards are in good condition and of low stretch construction. also assuming you've got solid connection points at the deck (toerails, winch, bow cleats etc). keel-stepped mast gives a little more security than deck-stepped.
I once went to the masthead in an open anchorage using the jib halyard as a sisterstay, but it was oversized amsteal. if your boat is slipped in a protected marina I wouldn't loose any sleep over it.
my .02
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09-11-2014, 07:01
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
Thanks. The boats out of the water
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09-11-2014, 07:04
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
Is it keel stepped or deck stepped?
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09-11-2014, 07:08
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
Deck.
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09-11-2014, 07:10
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
if its in a commercial yard then it might not be your decision...
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09-11-2014, 07:11
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
It's a diy yard. But I probably need to take the mast down anyway.
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09-11-2014, 07:15
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
the yard manager(insurer) might have an opinion. ive never been too comfortable leaving the rig up for more than a few days while on the hard. that would worry me more than the sistersays.
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09-11-2014, 07:23
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
I dont feel confy when we leave the mast without forestay for a couple of days but asuming you have enough strong deck points and strong halyards, 2 with enough tensión to both cleats or even the windlass do the trick if the weather is mild, if you have a second forestay or staysail , put a extra turns at the turbuckle and set both halyards tight. thats enough for a quick repair , no months...
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09-11-2014, 07:48
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
Buy yourself some cheap galv wire, 6 clamps, 2 thimbles, and a turnbuckle from Depot/Lowes.... Rig a temp forestay with a couple shackles...
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09-11-2014, 09:41
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
Loosen the backstay and you will have no problem using the halyards. BTW, I am curious as to why you might need to pull the mast; I have had my boat 32 years, and I have yet to even come close to needing to pull mine.
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09-11-2014, 09:52
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
Those halyards should be fine for a long time. Just make sure some idiot doesn't try to release them!
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09-11-2014, 12:34
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Re: Removing the forestay for repairs
If you have double lower shrouds, you don't need the forestay at all. Mast will stay up just fine. Would use a halyard to stabilize the mast when you need to climb to the masthead and long term storage just in case there are extreme winds.
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