Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 3 votes, 3.67 average. Display Modes
Old 16-01-2008, 15:22   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2006
Boat: NewPort 33, Lucille
Posts: 19
removable bowsprit?

I have a NewPort 33 sloop and I'm looking for a way to fly my spinnaker from a short bowsprit in front of the stay. Does anyone know of anything commercially available that can be attached to boat with out a lot of modification to the deck? I have a fairy beefy anchor roller, this is where the tang for the forestay currently attaches. I'd like to add a 1' to 2' foot extension beyond this for flying the chute. Any thoughts?

Thanks!
-Nate
__________________

__________________
eldiente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2008, 15:45   #2
Moderator Emeritus
 
Pblais's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hayes, VA
Boat: Gozzard 36
Posts: 8,700
Images: 15
Send a message via Skype™ to Pblais
A beefy anchor roller isn't a bow sprit. A real bow sprit is designed into the whole bow structure. They do make retractable sprits used foy flying a chute but those boats have the sprit designed into the structure from day one. Adding a real bow sprit to a boat is more than a serious operation and not something usually worth the cost to do properly. This something in between is not so clear.

If you are only talking a foot or two then I'm not clear what the issue is of doing it at all. It sounds like you just want a better point to attach to. Modification of the bow roller might be possible but it depends on how it is attached. With such a short amount then maybe no amount is really helpful. An extension will add a stronger moment to the force of the sail on the bow roller. The length of the sprit acts as a lever against how the roller is attached. Thus it compounds the force with length. Small increases in extensioncould overly stress the structure.

In a gust the force of the chute can be large. You may not normally fly a chute in strong wind. A big gust could do damge to the bow as well as trash the chute. A torn chute is not nice but bow damage could be terminal for the boat.

I'm not sure what you total situation is but it is something that can be harder than you think to do properly.
__________________

__________________
Paul Blais
s/v Bright Eyes Gozzard 36
37 15.7 N 76 28.9 W
Pblais is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2008, 16:58   #3
Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,453
Not sure of exactly what your boat's bow area looks like - but if your forestay attaches to a tang or some type of piece on the bow, you may have some options. I've known some people to rig some very short bar stock, attached to the tang/hardware for the forestay, to give a slight extension from the actual tack point of the jib. Then, attaching a shackle and/or block to the end of the bar stock, you can use a line to the tack of the chute (I'm presuming an asymetrical) through the block and back to a tie-off point. I like this method for a couple of reasons - besides keeping it clear of the bow sprint hardware and anchors, it gives you another adjustment point to trim the sail, and if you don't have a snuffer, it is a lot easier to blow and collapse the chute when you want to take it down.
__________________
S/V Elusive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-01-2008, 17:22   #4
Registered User
 
Yotboss's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Diego/Mexico
Boat: TPI Lagoon 42
Posts: 63
Images: 9
Selden makes one....

http://www.seldenmast.com/download.cfm?download=7837&webnode_id=3014&filenam e=595-261-E.pdf
__________________
Yotboss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 02:57   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Home port: San Diego, California. Currently in Europe.
Boat: Hallberg-Rassy 40
Posts: 120
Images: 6
We have a simple removable bowsprit. It was an option on our Hallberg-Rassy 40, but I do not think they sell them separately. I know that others have had a copy made. If you can find an HR at a boat show or somewhere you can see it. If you are interested I can email you a picture (not good enough to have one made, but at least you will get the idea).
Jim
__________________
TENAYA
www.tenayatravels.com
Jim Thomsen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-01-2008, 13:27   #6
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2006
Boat: NewPort 33, Lucille
Posts: 19
Yes, I've seen the ones on the HR, that is what I'm looking to do. I'm looking for a better way to fly the chute without getting fouled up the life lines and furler. Yes this an asymmetrical chute.

I've used the ATN tacker for the chute with mixed results. The main complaint I have the with ATN is that the jib has to furled to us it. This is usually isn't a problem, but when the wind comes up I like to unfurl the jib to blanket the spinnaker until I can go forward and take it all down.

I'm open to ideas on this. The removable sprit seemed like a good way around this but maybe there is a better way.

-Nate


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Thomsen View Post
We have a simple removable bowsprit. It was an option on our Hallberg-Rassy 40, but I do not think they sell them separately. I know that others have had a copy made. If you can find an HR at a boat show or somewhere you can see it. If you are interested I can email you a picture (not good enough to have one made, but at least you will get the idea).
Jim
__________________

__________________
eldiente is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bowsprit

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Retractable Bowsprit West Coast Cat Multihull Sailboats 25 22-11-2013 10:10
Yanma 3QM30 Injection Pump User removable? svnakia Engines and Propulsion Systems 11 24-01-2008 13:59
Double headstay on a sloop w/o bowsprit? md7a General Sailing Forum 11 08-07-2007 15:10
Wood for Bowsprit cburger Deck hardware: Rigging, Sails & Hoisting 0 23-01-2007 15:06
Removable mattress NoTies Liveaboard's Forum 21 07-06-2006 21:36



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:16.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.