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Old 29-09-2015, 05:13   #46
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Another schooner, this one I sailed from Tasmania to South America. very light and fast, but a effective rig for the boat.
Now that's a good looking schooner. Very similar to the Nauticat 44 setup, and I like the twin headsail arrangement. A German cruiser reported good speeds in his steel boat with a similar arrangement. Hmmm.....

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Don't forget a couple of very very long poles to pole out those two oversize headsails set wing on wing that are going to pull you across a couple of oceans!

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Old 29-09-2015, 08:29   #48
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2 x Flex-o-fold folding props ordered this morning; should be with us within the next couple of weeks.



Glad to hear you've used them as well and have had a positive experience - John's been really helpful and we've now placed an order with him for some used sails.

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great stuff,should make a huge difference.

the reason why i picked up on you having twin props was from your videos.

I noticed in one of them that whilst sailing very slowly, you had a very turbulent wake behind the boat,in another video of your girlfriend diving on one of your offset props,this confirmed my suspicions.

you will definitely get at least another knot of boat speed under sail with the new props.

poling out twin headsails,balanced with the mizzen and main should also give a good turn of speed once you find the "slot",about 30-40 degrees off dead downwind,to about 65degrees before the windward genoa starts trying to gybe.

this rig also gives loads of stability,and stops you rolling
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Re: Re-masting a schooner

Just talked to a mate, he picked up a mast from a ovni 42. 15 meters long, twin spreaders and about 6.5kg per meter. Seems pretty light, so worth cross checking, but my guess is that an ovni would have a RM 30 similar to yours. Lighter weight, but wider, though it does have internal ballast.

Another data point is the YD 40 used in principles of yacht design. She is light at 8 tonnes, but has a high ballast ratio, and low C of G. Her mast is about 16 meters and weighs 7.32 kg/m for a stronger than needed iy of 1775cm4 and an IX of 830cm4. This is a section 224mm x 150mm.

My boats mast is much lighter, but it's got tripple spreaders and a sleeved lower panel.
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Just a brief update on this one - a huge thanks to Snowpetrel for advice on options for our rig.

Here's a sneak peak of how the setup looks so far - we're just waiting on a tang to be made for the genoa furler, then testing starts next week (weather depending of course).


Oh, and these should make quite a difference as well....


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Wow, you sure don't mess about. Good on you! Looks good, and thanks for the update. Cheers

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Wow, you sure don't mess about. Good on you! Looks good, and thanks for the update. Cheers

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So it's been a while, but we finally got all the jobs done and got back underway a couple of weeks back.

The trip down to Lisbon had to be done under motor as we'd not had a chance to test in Nazare, but there was no additional rolling or heeling (2-4m swell on aft s'board quarter and 25+kts on the port beam) - or none that we could discern. The folding props did make a difference though, giving us an extra kt (makes me think our original props weren't sized properly).

Finally got around to testing today. Light winds (10-12kts first time out, 5-10kts second time out) but very happy with performance. Saw around 4kts downwind under genoa only, and a couple of knots upwind the second time out (although we were punching a two knots of tide).






We'll test further as the summer progresses, but we're happy so far.

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Good work Nathan, looking forward to more updates, but sounds good so far.

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Re: Re-masting a schooner

HOLY SMOKE!!!

Pic 2 shows extremely excessive forward rake... Loosen the forestay a bit ....

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HOLY SMOKE!!!

Pic 2 shows extremely excessive forward rake... Loosen the forestay a bit ....

Fish eye lens.....

Here's how it actually looks:


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Looks good!

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