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Old 07-10-2016, 23:13   #1
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For those of you that might be unfamiliar with rat-boards, they have the same function as ratlines (ratlins) except made of wood. I want to have a set on one side of my boat. I've seen some attached with bulldog clamps (kind of a small u-clamp) but I think that might damage the wire over time.
I've seen others clamps between 2 boards as shown in the picture. Some input would be appreciated if anyone has made this set-up.

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Re: Rat-boards

are you wanting pin rails or ratlings?? you show pin rail.
my boat has ratlings of wood, but they are single piece lashed onto shrouds.
belaying pin rails are different than ratlings. ratlings can be rope or wood.
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Re: Rat-boards

My understanding is that Rat lines are rope and rat-boards are wood...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines

"Ratlines, pronounced "rattlin's", are lengths of thin line tied between the shrouds of a sailing ship to form a ladder.[1] Found on all square rigged ships, whose crews must go aloft to stow the square sails, they also appear on larger fore-and-aft rigged vessels to aid in repairs aloft or conduct a lookout from above.
Lower courses in a ratline are often made of slats of wood for support where the distance between shrouds is greatest. These wooden boards are called rat-boards. In some instances holes in these slats guide and organise low-tension lines between the deck and the rig."
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Re: Rat-boards

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Some friends of ours installed "rat boards" using timber from Mexico, and using 1 peso coins (which were 1200 to the dollar at the time) for the washers. Where he put the holes determined how low the boards could slide between his lowers.

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Any pictures Ann?
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Some friends of ours installed "rat boards" using timber from Mexico, and using 1 peso coins (which were 1200 to the dollar at the time) for the washers. Where he put the holes determined how low the boards could slide between his lowers.

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Love it... Hard to imagine purchasing 1200 washers for $1 anywhere in the world... after 1950...
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Re: Rat-boards

my ratlings are arbutis. my nav light boards are ipe, my NEW ratlings will be rope and painted with a substance used by my cargo schooner friends --is tar like but less messy
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Any pictures Ann?
Not one, sorry Celestialsailor. That was way back when we were using 35 mm film, and what he did seemed merely practical to me, not remarkable. It is in today's perspective that it was worth remembering.


Actually, we now have a collection of potential washers in all the loose coin one is left with when leaving somewhere. Interesting that coinage is non-rusting, these days.

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Well...like anything else...I'll just wing it. I've seen a few examples over the years but did not like any of them for either cost reasons or poorly engineered. Probably something along the lines of 2 halves and route radius's for the wire and recessed SS. T-nuts and recessed 1/4-20 hex bolts. I want something I can depend on.
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Re: Rat-boards

^^^^^^^^^^

Absolutely. I think the timber is easier on bare feet than the rope.

Not wanting the extra windage, Jim instead made a rope and timber step ladder that he could hoist to the spreader for when he wanted to go aloft. Just a different approach.

It's a learning process of how to spot the reefs and bommies (Oz-speak for coral heads), and having the height of eye at the first spreaders does help, but later on, mostly not needed. However, if it gets too late in the day, (after 4, say), it really helps tremendously.

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Re: Rat-boards

Somehow, the term "ratlines" (ratlins) is OK, while "rat-boards" isn't, at least to my ears. I keep getting a mental picture of a group of rodents walking across a plank, boarding my vessel. This is not rat-ional

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Re: Rat-boards

replaced my (gal.)rigging a few years ago, refurbished, painted, and refitted the ratlines (wooden) mostly using the same rigging clamps that were already holding them on - had to replace a couple that had corroded, not easy to find after some 35 years since they were first fitted. Absolutley no evidence of any adverse effect on the rigging wires. One of the timbers had split around its clamp on one side so I reinforced it with rope, still working a few years since...
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Somehow, the term "ratlines" (ratlins) is OK, while "rat-boards" isn't, at least to my ears. I keep getting a mental picture of a group of rodents walking across a plank, boarding my vessel. This is not rat-ional

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Makes me think of rat guards like this https://static.mijnwebwinkel.nl/wink...g?t=1464071190



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It's a learning process of how to spot the reefs and bommies (Oz-speak for coral heads), and having the height of eye at the first spreaders does help, but later on, mostly not needed. However, if it gets too late in the day, (after 4, say), it really helps tremendously.

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Exactly the reason I'm looking at putting them on this year for next years crossing to the Marquesas and beyond.
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Rat-boards

The wiki is all about rat lines and rat boards. Your photo is a pin rack. Which do you desire? It sounds like you don't want a pinrack.

Even with a wood sandwich you'll usually seize the shroud above and below the pin rack or rat board to prevent upward movement in the former and downward in the latter.


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